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He doesn't have that dura.
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Without hax, the best they can reach is High 3-AKaenDragneel123 said:Universe level X10 = Universe level
He isn'tSaitamax said:Goku being universal without kaioken dont make much sense though
he still way weaker than Beerus without kaioken. and Berus needed to go 100% to be universal (unless he lying about that too)
First Vegeta did said his blows were light,but that's because Hit didn't hit him hard,with that final blow that K.O Vegeta,even Vegeta said heavy blow.Antvasima said:The intention behind my edit was to state that the combined power-up of SSB and Kaioken places Goku at 3-A. I will try to modify the description, since it causes confusion.
Also, Vegeta stated that Hit's blows were weaker than his own, but that enough of them at vital spots still caused considerable damage.
When you see new episode and NEP you'll see why Hit is on pair with SSB KK x10,Hit even says i think twice during episode that he is grateful to Goku because he powered up because of him and that's why he decides to allow Goku to use KK instead of finishing him offAntvasima said:Well, from what I could tell from the Vegeta fight, Hit was not more powerful, it was simply his time stop, and assassination techniques to hit vital spots, that landed him the victory.
However, I have not seen the new episode yet, and the fight will continue next week, so I may change my mind depending on what happens.
First Vegeta & Goku said he did not power up at all,but then when Hit strikes Goku,Goku actually says - he did power up after allLordAizenSama said:The Characters clearly note that Hit was improving his time stop power, not his actual ki which did not change at all (again noted by the characters watching).
It's really simple, just wait for the next episode.
Actually Goku did say that his attacks powered up.LordAizenSama said:The Characters clearly note that Hit was improving his time stop power, not his actual ki which did not change at all (again noted by the characters watching).
It's really simple, just wait for the next episode.
When he improved time skip from 0.1 to 0.2 he improved his strenght tooLordAizenSama said:Not that I recall, but it was Definitely not during Goku's Kaioken mode.