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Hit should be updated to scale with Goku plus there is still some outdated things on the wiki

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Goku being universal without kaioken dont make much sense though

he still way weaker than Beerus without kaioken. and Berus needed to go 100% to be universal (unless he lying about that too)
 
Since Beerus and Champa threatened multiple universes with their fight then I think it's safe to say he was lying about the 100% thing
 
Wouldn't he now have Infinite Speed as well since he's no longer confined to time, practically blows his Instant Transmission out of the water

Also Vegeta shouldn't be classified as 3-A (well without getting angry) since this is only because of Goku's Kaioken technique stating that it'd even be strong enough to take on Beerus and we all know that Beerus is 3-A at max power.
 
The intention behind my edit was to state that the combined power-up of SSB and Kaioken places Goku at 3-A. I will try to modify the description, since it causes confusion.

Also, Vegeta stated that Hit's blows were weaker than his own, but that enough of them at vital spots still caused considerable damage.
 
Antvasima said:
The intention behind my edit was to state that the combined power-up of SSB and Kaioken places Goku at 3-A. I will try to modify the description, since it causes confusion.
Also, Vegeta stated that Hit's blows were weaker than his own, but that enough of them at vital spots still caused considerable damage.
First Vegeta did said his blows were light,but that's because Hit didn't hit him hard,with that final blow that K.O Vegeta,even Vegeta said heavy blow.
 
Well, from what I could tell from the Vegeta fight, Hit was not more powerful, it was simply his time stop, and assassination techniques to hit vital spots, that landed him the victory.

However, I have not seen the new episode yet, and the fight will continue next week, so I may change my mind depending on what happens.
 
Antvasima said:
Well, from what I could tell from the Vegeta fight, Hit was not more powerful, it was simply his time stop, and assassination techniques to hit vital spots, that landed him the victory.
However, I have not seen the new episode yet, and the fight will continue next week, so I may change my mind depending on what happens.
When you see new episode and NEP you'll see why Hit is on pair with SSB KK x10,Hit even says i think twice during episode that he is grateful to Goku because he powered up because of him and that's why he decides to allow Goku to use KK instead of finishing him off
 
The Characters clearly note that Hit was improving his time stop power, not his actual ki which did not change at all (again noted by the characters watching).

It's really simple, just wait for the next episode.
 
LordAizenSama said:
The Characters clearly note that Hit was improving his time stop power, not his actual ki which did not change at all (again noted by the characters watching).
It's really simple, just wait for the next episode.
First Vegeta & Goku said he did not power up at all,but then when Hit strikes Goku,Goku actually says - he did power up after all
 
LordAizenSama said:
The Characters clearly note that Hit was improving his time stop power, not his actual ki which did not change at all (again noted by the characters watching).

It's really simple, just wait for the next episode.
Actually Goku did say that his attacks powered up.
 
LordAizenSama said:
Not that I recall, but it was Definitely not during Goku's Kaioken mode.
When he improved time skip from 0.1 to 0.2 he improved his strenght too

Then when he went from 0.2 to 0.5 he again improved because he was able to tank many SSB KK x10 blows from Goku,in fact we know for sure from NEP and that new picture from magazine that Hit is still not going 100%
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Durability does not mean he has the same AP.

and, Sigh, again just wait for the next episode. it's really not hard..

Also I guess this may aswell be closed also, all points were covered here.
 
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