High 7-C Tournament Round 2, match 6 (Kamen Rider Knight vs Hoaquin) (0/7/0)

[Coolboy6]

Both High 7-C, speed equalized, battle takes place at the DBZ World Tournament Arena.
(@Nicetoderp) Kamen Knight:

(@ImNot4nUser) White: 7

Knight is stronger than 109 KT

White is 304 KT

 

[Arceus0x]

I feel like White just slashes him to death. He has an AP and skill advantage as well as range.
I don't see Kamen winning here

 

[Coolboy6]

I feel like White just slashes him to death. He has an AP and skill advantage as well as range.
I don't see Kamen winning here

Kamen here is far stronger than his value here apparently.

 

[Arceus0x]

Kamen here is far stronger than his value here apparently.

what?

 

[Arceus0x]

oh nvm.
I get it.

Well White's 304kt attack was also pretty average, he wasn't really serious and was starved for souls which is what gives him power.
He still slashes a bunch and eventually wins as his attacks are impossible to parry

 

[Nicetoderp]

Knight use Trick Vent and immediately start duplicating. His Advent Beast spams stunning sonic wave so not sure how he's parrying that either. Knight isn't the kind of people who just stand his ground when things looks bad so he's most likely to just dip into Mirror World where Hoaqin can't give chase to him.

At that point, it's a game of cat and mouse where every reflection in the city is a place where Knight can attack.

 

[Arceus0x]

Knight use Trick Vent and immediately start duplicating. His Advent Beast spams stunning sonic wave so not sure how he's parrying that either. Knight isn't the kind of people who just stand his ground when things looks bad so he's most likely to just dip into Mirror World where Hoaqin can't give chase to him.

At that point, it's a game of cat and mouse where every reflection in the city is a place where Knight can attack.

the fight takes place in an arena, not a city.
Either way evading hoaquin isn't an option since SBA states they want each other dead. Hoaquin is extremely skilled and can spam unparriable slashes that would hit over long range and take down his opponent

 

[Whiteoak019]

white fra

 

[BERRIES555]

Nasty Vent’s is an AoE sound wave which could paralyze people, White’s not dodging that since it comes from Knight’s Contract Monster and well, it’s an AoE attack. Knight’s Tricky Vent would also make this into a 10 v 1, while White has the AP advantage, Knight could still withstand his attacks. He tanked the 109 KT explosion in the very beginning of the series and has gotten stronger ever since, with his Contract Monster being stronger than him

How does White fight? Cause if the Contract Monster or Knight himself takes a hold of White at any moment, he’ll be dragged into the Mirror World and die to the Mirror World’s effect of killing a non Rider or just simply leaving him there.

 

[Nicetoderp]

the fight takes place in an arena, not a city.
Either way evading hoaquin isn't an option since SBA states they want each other dead. Hoaquin is extremely skilled and can spam unparriable slashes that would hit over long range and take down his opponent

The fight take place in an arena but there's no arena rules being apply. So yes Knight can still used Mirror World as his advantage here.

And also he can't really dodge Nasty Vent either which can be chained into Final Vent which paralyzed White

 

[Arceus0x]

Nasty Vent’s is an AoE sound wave which could paralyze people, White’s not dodging that since it comes from Knight’s Contract Monster and well, it’s an AoE attack. Knight’s Tricky Vent would also make this into a 10 v 1, while White has the AP advantage, Knight could still withstand his attacks. He tanked the 109 KT explosion in the very beginning of the series and has gotten stronger ever since, with his Contract Monster being stronger than him

How does White fight? Cause if the Contract Monster or Knight himself takes a hold of White at any moment, he’ll be dragged into the Mirror World and die to the Mirror World’s effect of killing a non Rider or just simply leaving him there.

Long range attack spam.

Also what's the AOE range? Nothing really stops him from dodging it or making distance

 

[IxaSaga2]

Knight can just dip in and out the mirror world to avoid attacks. Only people with advent decks can see the things inside Mirror World and others would only see a reflection so he won't be able to tell where Knight will be.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

Knight can just dip in and out the mirror world to avoid attacks. Only people with advent decks can see the things inside Mirror World and others would only see a reflection so he won't be able to tell where Knight will be.

Correction: Normal people can actually see the reflection of Mirror World. It's seem like White got pretty good senses so he would able to know where Knight would come out.

Also, the argument in favour of Knight seem kinda iffy even for me. Sure, the guy is willing to kills in this fight but "Mirror World gg" isn't his first choice, mainly because he is not Ouja or Ryuga so it's just hypothetical situation at best, i could agree with him using it as last resort but it doesn't seem to be possible with White's range attacks and shinsoo hindering his movement.

Not voting yet but leaning toward White for now.

 

[IxaSaga2]

Correction: Normal people can actually see the reflection of Mirror World. It's seem like White got pretty good senses so he would able to know where Knight would come out.

Also, the argument in favour of Knight seem kinda iffy even for me. Sure, the guy is willing to kills in this fight but "Mirror World gg" isn't his first choice, mainly because he is not Ouja or Ryuga so it's just hypothetical situation at best, i could agree with him using it as last resort but it doesn't seem to be possible with White's range attacks and shinsoo hindering his movement.

Not voting yet but leaning toward White for now.

That's Yui, only she can see Mirror World for spoiler reasons. There's a reason why she can see the inside of Mirror while everyone else walks by.

Ryuki Riders in general prefer to fight in the Mirror World at all times. That's why the first thing they do every episode is go into Mirror World.

 

[Jamesthetaker]

That's Yui, only she can see Mirror World for spoiler reasons. There's a reason why she can see the inside of Mirror while everyone else walks by.

Ryuki Riders in general prefer to fight in the Mirror World at all times. That's why the first thing they do every episode is go into Mirror World.

Probably, White still got good senses even if he cannot see where Knight is though.

That's for Ryuki Riders only, not everyone is willing to uses Mirror World BS from the get-go, even if they have no problem with killing people.

 

[Nicetoderp]

While Mirror World won't be a guaranteed. He can still pop out, use Nasty Vent into Final Vent or Trick Vent and start ganging up on him. Knightwinger also help with stunning White.

 

[Arceus0x]

Probably, White still got good senses even if he cannot see where Knight is though.

That's for Ryuki Riders only, not everyone is willing to uses Mirror World BS from the get-go, even if they have no problem with killing people.

such characters can sense each other nearby and their instincts are mad. Hoaquin can fight Bam and the guy literally evades a dozen invisible projectiles instinctually so well that he can practically see them

 

[IxaSaga2]

The farther away Darkraider is from the enemy, the more area the gusts cover. It's essentially creating two horizontal tornadoes. When it was used, we see how big the tornadoes are and then when it hits the enemy, comparatively it was way bigger that it originally was and covered the whole screen.

 

[Arceus0x]

The farther away Darkraider is from the enemy, the more area the gusts cover. It's essentially creating two horizontal tornadoes. When it was used, we see how big the tornadoes are and then when it hits the enemy, comparatively it was way bigger that it originally was and covered the whole screen.

White can counter it with his energy slashes which vaporize areas around hundreds of meters in length and dozens in width, that being a rather casual attack

 

[IxaSaga2]

White can counter it with his energy slashes which vaporize areas around hundreds of meters in length and dozens in width, that being a rather casual attack

The attack is wind so it shouldn't work unless he has NPI or he can blow it back or something.

 

[Arceus0x]

The attack is wind so it shouldn't work unless he has NPI or he can blow it back or something.

wind doesn't mean it is a ghost or something. Tornadoes are blocked by any impact or immovable object, not to mention wind is more than touchable since it's air, a good explosion can destroy something that is made of wind

 

[IxaSaga2]

wind doesn't mean it is a ghost or something. Tornadoes are blocked by any impact or immovable object, not to mention wind is more than touchable since it's air, a good explosion can destroy something that is made of wind

that's fair.

What can White do about Darkraider's Electromagnetic Waves that paralyzes opponents and ultrasonic waves that confuse opponents?

 

[Arceus0x]

that's fair.

What can White do about Darkraider's Electromagnetic Waves that paralyzes opponents and ultrasonic waves that confuse opponents?

I mean he could most likely evade it with his enhanced senses and slash apart the monsters in question

 

[Coolboy6]

Bump

 

[ImNot4nUser]

Yeah I will vote for White for now at least tbh, his first in character movement is tens of sword slashes which warp space to attack from every angle, following you in "abstract lines of trajectories" as well as being unpredictable as a law and will hit, while having a x2.7 AP advantage, which isn't much, but due to overwhelming spam will mean a lot.

As well as having the means to keep him down, since once defeated he can eat his soul

Tho I want to know, Which is Kamen rider First movement in character and, are the hypnosis and paralysis long term or temporally?

 

[Psychomaster35]

White FRA

 

[Coolboy6]

Counted

 

[Nicetoderp]

Hmm alright then, I'm convinced enough. While dragging opponent to the mirror world is an IC thing for him to do, he doesn't goes out of his way to do it unlike Ryuga or Ohja who is a psychopath.

Voting White

 

[Psychomaster35]

2 more votes

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

White FRA

 

[Coolboy6]

1 more vote

 

[IxaSaga2]

Yea, White Fra

 

[Coolboy6]

Grace.
Gotta go to bed so I’ll post the next match sometime tomorrow.