High 6-C Fantasy Tournament Round 2: Hashirama Senju vs Grima

[Naito-desu]

• Both are High 6-C
• Base Hashira and Future Past Grima are used
• Hashira has Wood Golem
• Speeds are equalized, SBA otherwise
• Battle takes place in the fields of Ylisse, Hashirama starts about 100 meters below Grima in flight

Hashirama:
Grima: 6

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

Uh? The links and the title of the links are still for Naruto and Meliodas

 

[Naito-desu]

Shit I copy pasted hold on

 

[Keeweed]

As far as I remember. The high 6-Cs for marvel aren’t supposed to be used. They are a place over until better feats can be found. Why they aren’t just unknown is weird, but there has already been like 5 threads over it, so we are kinda stuck with a hot mess.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

As far as I remember. The high 6-Cs for marvel aren’t supposed to be used. They are a place over until better feats can be found. Why they aren’t just unknown is weird, but there has already been like 5 threads over it, so we are kinda stuck with a hot mess.

Doesn't that just apply to characters that have a Key or Keys that have a varying degree of stats?

Like Thor who can range to High 6-C to 4-B?

 

[Keeweed]

I just double checked. She Hulk is definitely in that bunch.

 

[OneBleachHurricane]

I just double checked. She Hulk is definitely in that bunch.

She Hulk has two Keys though?

Sensational who only has High 6-C
&
Savage who varies from High 6-C up to 4-B

And the OP seems to specify the High 6-C only version specifically

 

[Keeweed]

Both keys are in the bunch. First key scales to the Thing and the thing is the main stick for the high 6-Cs that aren’t supposed to be used. If you go through She Hulks scaling you’ll see it is circular and unjustified like all the other high 6-Cs that are supposed to be changed.

 

[Naito-desu]

She Hulk is caught in a scaling circle so I guess we can have her eliminated or continue this match. I'll give it some grace for Zoro to decide but if he doesn't speak up then Grima can move on by default

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Could we replace She-Hulk with Invincible?

 

[Naito-desu]

Alright I'll replace it with that, though seeing their opponent, he's likely going to lose anyway

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

I thought about Edelgard, but idk enough about Fire Emblem to argue for her or explain her hax.

 

[Naito-desu]

We have another Fire Emblem supporter in the tournament, though Fire Emblem v Fire Emblem might not go well with them

 

[KobsterHope07]

Alrighty, here’s some stuff Grima:

Future Past Grima is basically comprised two person. The Body which is the giant dragon body and the Heart, which is the one using Robin who control and direct Dragon Grima’s actions.

AP wise, he is casually 340.4 Gigatons, meaning he is above that if serious. He can increase his strength with Ignis and since he has Rightful God, it is very likely to activate

He has an aura that bring about a sense of dread, not to mention that anybody near him will have their evasion rate lower due to Anathema

Due to Dragonskin + Pavise+/Aegis+, he‘s basically have a 4x reduction in damage for both close range and long range attacks

His Expiration negates defenses… basically dura-neg. His Dark Spikes is basically him summoning bunch of spikes to stab his opponent from beneath.

One of the first thing he do in every battle he is in is summon an army of Grimm to his side, who can fight people that can pose a threat to Grima, and can replenish it near endlessly according to Naga (Check 7:30). It can get to a point where if he is not stop eventually that according to Lucina in her C-Support with Robin:

In the future, almost no corner of our world is safe for humans. Risen prowl the land as masters of all. The people cower in terror, helpless.

… Though if we go Gameplay wise, it is about 50 at max, with 4 replenishing every turn.

Due to Hawkeye, Grima’s attack is 100% accurate, regardless of his accuracy or the target‘s evasion rate.

He is a gigantic boi that can fly and has range around Hundreds of Kilometers

Since he‘s using Robin body, he can utilizes Robin’s Analytical Prediction to see his enemy's strength, their weaponry, and the flow of battle, allowing him to know how powerful the enemy is from him and plan his moves

 

[Naito-desu]

Participants are changed

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Battle takes place in Ylisse, She-Hulk starts about 100 meters below Grima in flight

Sorry to be the "missed a spot" guy...

 

[KobsterHope07]

So an apocalyptic dragon who hates humanity vs a guy whose wood that everybody wants a piece of. Truly the beginning of a legendary battle

 

[Nierre]

lol following

 

[KobsterHope07]

In terms of AP, Grima is >340.4 Gigatons while Hashirama is 643 Gigatons so Hashirama w/ Wood Release is stronger, although due to Dragonskin and Pavise+/Aegis+, Grima would be taking 4x less damage from any close/long range damage.

Grima can summon an army to his side and replenish them to no end, so he will have a number advantage against Hashirama, especially if Grima is not stop in time

Due to the difference in LS, Class E vs Class T for Grima and Hashirama's Wood Release respectively, Hashirama will find it difficult to restraint Grima with his wood

It is worth to note that Hashirama is only High 6-C+ with Wood Release, he is High 7-A physically, so if Grima attack his real body once, then it is over. And considering due to Hawkeye, Grima's attacks is 100% accurate regardless of his accuracy or the opponent's evasion, not to mention that being close to Grima will cause his evasion to lower due to Anathema.

Due to Immune Status, Grima is resistant to Status Effect Inducement

I vote for Grima

 

[Nierre]

yeah.... Grima fra
(assuming this isnt a stomp)

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Dunno about Future Past, but in Awakening's Endgame Grima also opens with Dark Spikes, which immediately brought Chrom, Robin, and everyone else to near death.

Grima FRA

 

[Sero]

looks like shinobi god is about to die

 

[XSOULOFCINDERX]

Wait, why can't Hashirama Substitute himself with something else to take the hit for him? Also his Wood Clones should be able to even things out.

 

[Naito-desu]

Bump

 

[KobsterHope07]

Wait, why can't Hashirama Substitute himself with something else to take the hit for him? Also his Wood Clones should be able to even things out.

You mean via the Substitution Jutsu? The technique where he take something nearby and use it to make it look like he been hit but not really? He could try but Hawkeye allow big boi to hit targets regardless of evasion rate or accuracy so blocking would probably be better. And his attacks has some AoE on them as his Dark Spikes can cover the majority of the Dragon 's back to incapacitated an entire army.

And the Wood Clones should even things out with Grima's Summoning, though Grima can constantly replenish his army with little to no drain to his power. How much clones can Hashirama summons at once in his base

 

[Naito-desu]

Alright bump

 

[Naito-desu]

Well, in any case, Grima moves forward in the tournament

 

[Naito-desu]

Round 3 with balance changes

 

[Naito-desu]

Bump

 

[Sonicflare9]

grim fra

 

[Naito-desu]

Bump

 

[Peppersalt43]

Grima FRA

 

[Naito-desu]

Counted

 

[Naito-desu]

Bump, this needs votes

 

[FantaRin_The_First]

Grima FRA I am sorry if this isn't allowed, y'know, posting in a seemingly dead thread, Also, the OP can vote on their own thread if they want, they are entitled to a single vote as much as anybody else,

 

[Naito-desu]

As far as I know Grima might get upgraded to 4-A if a certain CRT goes through, but I guess I'll vote and put it in grace

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Yeah, Grima becoming 4-A seems almost guaranteed at this point