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Which came first, the bird or the timeline ovo
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Heroes and Xenoverse speed revisited
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I think Toki-toki's case need scans/links so a proper evaluation can made on it.
In any case, the thread's topic is more or less put on hold since the Timeless Voids Standards Issues (Staff only) thread is still going so it is best that it is concluded first.
In any case, the thread's topic is more or less put on hold since the Timeless Voids Standards Issues (Staff only) thread is still going so it is best that it is concluded first.
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Yes a non-abstract can create something Abstract, see any non-abstract creation deity who made Time or Concepts, also absorbing something abstract doesn't make you abstract without clarification.
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Not even the egg is an abstract. It just creates time. It's not time itself. Tokitoki lays eggs that hatch into timelines. It's not hard to understand. It's basic creation feats, lest every creator dirty has conceptual level reality warping for creating spacetime.
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That makes no sense. If something is the embodiment of time, personification of time, given form or shape to time and you gain all the power that comes with that embodiment then it stands to reason that Mira would be the new embodiment, personification, or form/shape of time itself.Everything12 said:
Now anyways let's go to some statements
They even mention that there is nothing they can do to stop him. The power that Mira had power that shouldn't even exist and yet he was fighting evenly with an ROF SSJB Goku, Trunks' is clearly not talking about AP. Lol they even told Goku to leave the fight as there was no use in taking on Mira with the Time Egg's abilities. It was not about AP. To sum it all up...IN ORDER TO KILL MIRA THEY HAD TO REMOVE THE TIME EGG!
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Can someone give me all the shit that is making Toki-Toki an abstract?
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People just shot the word "concept" and "abstract" all the time, that I no longer known what does it means...
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Embodiment of Time, creates eggs that hatch in Time, has control over Time that beats every other Time user, predates Time... I think, am I missing anything?
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First thing isn't said, last thing isn't true.Everything12 said:
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AmenAntoniofer said:
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Honestly I don't think any of its Abstract Existence proof, I was just posting everything they think is "proof."The real cal howard said:
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I am almost sure that Toki-Toki has been called the embodiment of time, actually.
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It wouldn't take much for me to believe that it's said, but due to the Mechikabura omnipresent falsehood, as the dude was 100% physical, I'm not believing anything DBH related without the explicit quote.Kepekley23 said:
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I mean, is possible to be an embodiment of something without actually be present within everything it represents; is just that people can't hear the word embodiment without associating it with higher tiers and concepts, embodiment and abstract aren't even mutually exclusive.
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What about Mechikabura having a physical form precludes him from being omnipresent? If he absorbed all time and space and became one with the Demon Realm for every universe he obviously possesses some level of omnipresence.
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Wait, is it seriously still being claimed that Mechikabura "became one with the Demon Realm"? The only evidence for that to begin with was a single ambiguous line from Dabura said long before the supposed feat would have taken place, and it's obvious now that it didn't happen since the Demon Realm is destroyed when Mechikabura nukes space-time.
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I checked the summary and untranslated Manga panels myself, and I see nothing that hints to being Omnipresent or HDE, he didn't become one with Time, he simply absorbed the timelines to increase his power. No idea about the Demon World thing it wasn't mentioning in the summary or the one before it and I don't feel like looking further.
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I wasn't addressing TPU Mechikabura, I was addressing Kepekley23's point that Mechikabura "became one with the Demon Realm", which was supposed to have been removed from Mechikabura's page months ago but apparently has stuck around.Dragomer said:
Put briefly, in the game the Time Patrol briefly fight the Demon Gods when they arrive in the Demon Realm, but right before that Dabura makes a comment about Mechikabura 'taking in' 'this world' (which presumably means the Demon Realm, since he was there at the time), and wondering what would happen to it. Purely from that, people extrapolated that Mechikabura was merging with it, which is now undeniably false since Mechikabura's plan in the game involved destroying it.
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^Everything12 said:
This
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Make a CRT then.
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For what? the Omnipresent thing? it's already been made.
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Link?
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The conclusion is that this CRT relies on the current standard of Timeless void and so nothing can be concluded til the new standard issue is sorted out.
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So are we going to make Toki-Toki profile or what?
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Probably someone else will make it later on.
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ok got it
