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I was a huge fan of The Year without a Santa Claus as a kid. When I looked up my favorite two characters, Heat and Snow Miser, I was pretty shocked at the ratings but then dismissed myself with "well, I guess I didn't really pay attention to the feats".
After some thought, there is a number of issues with the calc for their AP and their speed.
I'll start with speed, which has the most blatant issues.
For one, it claims he's dancing around natural light, but honestly that's not how the scene is portrayed. I feel like it can be perceived as that because of the style of animation; in stop motion you can't really portray a moving beam of light at realistic light speeds because real light would hit the target before a single frame passes, making it look like a weird sort of continuity error. That's why you can compare Heat Miser's speed to the light in the same frame in terms of miniscule pixels, because to properly portray light in the medium you have to slow it down by a ridiculous amount. That and honestly I'd call the feat an outlier; Heat and Snow Miser don't come off as guys who can move around at relativistic speeds.
As for the AP feat, I'm mostly looking for a source to confirm it, specifically when it says he can freeze over the entire planet. I remember him freezing over a large area, but I don't remember it being implied he could cover such a large area. I looked at the thread that mentioned this, but the quote was just saying they each control half the planet, not that Snow Miser could instantly freeze over half the planet at will. Like the best direct statement that we get is that Snow Miser sends blizzards over the Heat Miser's side, which Heat Miser disperses. But... that isn't really a feat with a planetary level of range.
Merry Christmas, though! I want to spiff up the Miser profiles with some better descriptions and links. There's also some newer movies with them in it, although I'm not sure if they're canon.
After some thought, there is a number of issues with the calc for their AP and their speed.
I'll start with speed, which has the most blatant issues.
For one, it claims he's dancing around natural light, but honestly that's not how the scene is portrayed. I feel like it can be perceived as that because of the style of animation; in stop motion you can't really portray a moving beam of light at realistic light speeds because real light would hit the target before a single frame passes, making it look like a weird sort of continuity error. That's why you can compare Heat Miser's speed to the light in the same frame in terms of miniscule pixels, because to properly portray light in the medium you have to slow it down by a ridiculous amount. That and honestly I'd call the feat an outlier; Heat and Snow Miser don't come off as guys who can move around at relativistic speeds.
As for the AP feat, I'm mostly looking for a source to confirm it, specifically when it says he can freeze over the entire planet. I remember him freezing over a large area, but I don't remember it being implied he could cover such a large area. I looked at the thread that mentioned this, but the quote was just saying they each control half the planet, not that Snow Miser could instantly freeze over half the planet at will. Like the best direct statement that we get is that Snow Miser sends blizzards over the Heat Miser's side, which Heat Miser disperses. But... that isn't really a feat with a planetary level of range.
Merry Christmas, though! I want to spiff up the Miser profiles with some better descriptions and links. There's also some newer movies with them in it, although I'm not sure if they're canon.
