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Yes, His EE is superior to beerus EE which is layered.
And resistance negation only negates the resistances its shown to negate. So all in all, Shadow is getting EE'd
Resistance negation to time stop, do it would work, but if the passive EE is that high, then idrsee how this is not a stomp tbh

Also iirc chaos control time stop has never been shown to work on people with immeasurable speed, making it trash compared to Hearts' resistance by default.
Yes it did, super forms

That's bs btw, I know it's on the page but I told Elixir to change it to a layer like more than a year ago.
Until someone does it we can't do much, i also agree with you, but that is just how the site functions
 
Resistance negation to time stop, do it would work, but if the passive EE is that high, then idrsee how this is not a stomp tbh


Yes it did, super forms


Until someone does it we can't do much, i also agree with you, but that is just how the site functions
Resistance negation to time stop only means he can negate Time stop resistance, nothing else. And his EE isn't passive tho. His gravity/Mind reading is iirc, But his EE is gesture/Wave based.
 
Resistance negation to time stop, do it would work, but if the passive EE is that high, then idrsee how this is not a stomp tbh
His EE is not passive.
 
His EE is not passive.

Tf he is voiced by dio?
 
Shadow is invulnerable tho, so he wouldn't be crushed, and since chaos control is thought based, he can just time stop to get out
Can't stop time since hearts has Resistance to time stop. And his invu won't protect him from paralysis or EE, and his crushing is a combo of gravity and matter manip. So it will work just fine.
 
Can't stop time since hearts has Resistance to time stop.
chaos control negates resistance with resistance negation

And his invu won't protect him from paralysis or EE
tbh, i still don't see how his EE is layered tbh, you said that it is above beerus' since it could erase zamasu, but that is just regen negation and not layered EE, also shadow resists paralisis

, and his crushing is a combo of gravity and matter manip. So it will work just fine.
invulnerability means that he will take no damage, tho he will likely not be able to move
 
I'm currently at work so I can't debate much lol
As fun as this looks lolol
I'll have to make points when I get home
 
He has heart/Mind reading and Analytical prediction, so he will know where Shadow will teleport. The instance Shadow tries to get close, he gets Paralysis/gravity crushed. And there he can either use his cubes to crush him, or straight up erase him
Analytical Prediction gets countered by Shadow's own analytical prediction due to his experience as a high-level GUN soldier, nice try though.

It doesn't matter if Hearts knows where Shadow is at any given time, as long as Shadow 1) has time to think and 2) doesn't get crushed/erased.
 
Resistance negation to time stop, do it would work, but if the passive EE is that high, then idrsee how this is not a stomp tbh

it is how it is

Yes it did, super forms

when

Until someone does it we can't do much, i also agree with you, but that is just how the site functions

hella hypocritical of you

and that ain't how it's treated for Shadow

everybody and their ancestor knows that his time stop is just 2 layers from baseline, it doesn't bypass Heart's resistance, as the Chaos Control ain't even 4-D, much less layered
 
Quick question, does Shadow need to actually land a hit on Hearts to destroy him, because his passive Gravity Manip actively prevents his opponenets from actually hitting him so that might be an issue
 
Quick question, does Shadow need to actually land a hit on Hearts to destroy him, because his passive Gravity Manip actively prevents his opponenets from actually hitting him so that might be an issue
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Quick question, does Shadow need to actually land a hit on Hearts to destroy him, because his passive Gravity Manip actively prevents his opponenets from actually hitting him so that might be an issue
Also Shadow can probably just spawn a space-time rift on his ass.
 
chaos control negates resistance with resistance negation


tbh, i still don't see how his EE is layered tbh, you said that it is above beerus' since it could erase zamasu, but that is just regen negation and not layered EE, also shadow resists paralisis


invulnerability means that he will take no damage, tho he will likely not be able to move
His EE is layered because it can EE zamasu who jas resistance To EE that of Power of destruction.
And if choas control negates resistance, ig thats a point for Shadow. And Hearts paralysis inducement is layered so it doesn't matter
 
Analytical Prediction gets countered by Shadow's own analytical prediction due to his experience as a high-level GUN soldier, nice try though.

It doesn't matter if Hearts knows where Shadow is at any given time, as long as Shadow 1) has time to think and 2) doesn't get crushed/erased.
It matters because his Analytical prediction can counter Zamasu's analytical prediction, which is equal to goku's, who is good enough to counter hits time skip, who in turn has analytical prediction.
So yes it matters.
 
Well, there's a bunch so mind if i link you the profile instead of list them?
Wait a Moment?
Shadow was Originally up against HER?
What was the OP on lololol

Pretty Sure this gets countered by Hearts also being able to Time Travel (at least I think he can Time Travel) or just having 2-A range
 
Pretty Sure this gets countered by Hearts also being able to Time Travel (at least I think he can Time Travel) or just having 2-A range
Speed amp aka you're too slow!
It matters because his Analytical prediction can counter Zamasu's analytical prediction, which is equal to goku's, who is good enough to counter hits time skip, who in turn has analytical prediction.
So yes it matters.
I will make you suffer for turning analytical prediction into a layers game.
who has EE resistance via resisting Toppo's/Sydra's hakai/Power of destrcution
Dafuq when?
Hearts doing the same be like: 👁👄👁
Invulnerability... maybe?
 
Shadow: Hit Hearts, probably via time travel
Hearts: EE Shadow, maybe crush him (with his cubes) if invulnerability doesn't cover.
Welp, Hearts seems to have the better LS, so he could easily stop Shadow and then EE.

That is, unless Invulnerability by Super Shadow prevents that.
 
Speed amp aka you're too slow!

I will make you suffer for turning analytical prediction into a layers game.

Dafuq when?

Invulnerability... maybe?
Shadow when hearts uses "Bend over": 👁👄👁.
And its you who said AP would be useless, not my fault db has layered analytical prediction.
And as for speed amps, His heart reading is potent enough to counter zamasu's and hit's, who both are comparable to goku, who can Predict SSB level opponents in base alone 👁👁....or maybe not.
And as for why Hearts EE will work, jist read Power of destrcution page, Hearts EE is above that 🙂
 
Welp, Hearts seems to have the better LS, so he could easily stop Shadow and then EE.

That is, unless Invulnerability by Super Shadow prevents that.
If invu prevents crushing, it doesn't prevent caging him in a cube, or causing Paralysis.
 
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