Hearts vs Shadow

[Dagoth_OwO]

Oh Goku's body, hakai works on a spiritual and mental level so not even sure I agree with that.

Zamasu smacked GoD Toppo aswell btw

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Teleportation

It doesn't

Hearts Gravity is potent enough that not even goku can use his teleporation. Plus heart reading, plus teleportation of his own, plus he can teleport his opponent

 

[Greenshifter]

And its you who said AP would be useless, not my fault db has layered analytical prediction.

Shadow's AP works on a clone of himself, checkmate.

 

[Greenshifter]

Shadow's AP works on a clone of himself, checkmate.

But seriously though Sonic has/should have AP and Shadow is above him (because I said so).

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Shadow's AP works on a clone of himself, checkmate.

Goku works on Zamasu and Black, who are himself. Double check mate.

 

[Greenshifter]

Zamasu smacked GoD Toppo aswell btw

I don't remember the scene of Toppo failing to EE him, weird.

 

[TheGreatBanana]

But seriously though Sonic has/should have AP and Shadow is above him (because I said so).

(Opinion rejected)

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

I don't remember the scene of Toppo failing to EE him, weird.

In the arcade he beat the shit out of GoD Toppo

 

[TheGreatBanana]

I don't remember the scene of Toppo failing to EE him, weird.

Tho it don't matter. Since Heart can erase the gods iirc, can negate high godly, is 4D, and because i said so.

 

[Greenshifter]

Goku works on Zamasu and Black, who are himself. Double check mate.

Yeah no, different minds.

Hearts Gravity is potent enough that not even goku can use his teleporation.

Skill issue on Goku's part

plus teleportation of his own, plus he can teleport his opponent

Shit, is the forced teleportation thought-based?

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Who and when?

Off the top of my head, this

 

[Greenshifter]

it doesn't prevent caging him in a cube,

Teleporation?

(Opinion rejected)

Objection rejected

In the arcade he beat the shit out of GoD Toppo

Oh cool

Tho it don't matter. Since Heart can erase the gods iirc, can negate high godly, is 4D, and because i said so.

Yes

 

[Quantu]

The EE should also be > Zeno's since it bypassed Zamasu's regen

 

[Greenshifter]

Off the top of my head, this

They weren't immeasurable speed in that moment were they?

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Yeah no, different minds.

Skill issue on Goku's part

Shit, is the forced teleportation thought-based?

Better/based minds. So check mate.
And it worked on Gogeta
Goku is superior shush
And its thought/finger-flicking based.

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

They weren't immeasurable speed in that moment were they?

Super forms are flat Immeasurable now, as is Metal Overlord itself

 

[Omegabronic]

it is how it is

You are agreeing with me or not? I am kind of confused

when

hMetal overlord final boss of sonic heroes

hella hypocritical of you

Wdym?

and that ain't how it's treated for Shadow

everybody and their ancestor knows that his time stop is just 2 layers from baseline, it doesn't bypass Heart's resistance, as the Chaos Control ain't even 4-D, much less layered

No? It is resistance negation, people miainterpreting the hax in the vs matches doesn't change what it is listed as, it is resistance negation, so the layers are useless since the negation itself is being removed

Quick question, does Shadow need to actually land a hit on Hearts to destroy him, because his passive Gravity Manip actively prevents his opponenets from actually hitting him so that might be an issue

I mean, he can just teleport his attack in hearts, also if he chaos control he can just ignore that right?

His EE is layered because it can EE zamasu who jas resistance To EE that of Power of destruction.

Good, that is solved then

And if choas control negates resistance, ig thats a point for Shadow. And Hearts paralysis inducement is layered so it doesn't matter

Good thing shadow's is thought based then, he won't need to move

Wait a Moment?
Shadow was Originally up against HER?
What was the OP on lolol

senzu beams

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

hMetal overlord final boss of sonic heroes

You're too slow!

 

[Omegabronic]

They weren't immeasurable speed in that moment were they?

Yes they were, super forms recent revision

 

[Eseseso]

If he can't hurt Super Shadow, I vote incon.

If he can, I vote Hearts, since he can take Shadow down before Shadow can do time-hax.

 

[Greenshifter]

Super forms are flat Immeasurable now, as is Metal Overlord itself

Wow a nice improvement, I stand corrected.

Guys, Hearts does have enough resistance layers right?

 

[Omegabronic]

You're too slow!

I kneel

 

[Eseseso]

Super forms are flat Immeasurable now, as is Metal Overlord itself

Then why isn't my boy Metal Overlord 2-B/2-A?

 

[TheGreatBanana]

You are agreeing with me or not? I am kind of confused


hMetal overlord final boss of sonic heroes


Wdym?


No? It is resistance negation, people miainterpreting the hax in the vs matches doesn't change what it is listed as, it is resistance negation, so the layers are useless since the negation itself is being removed


I mean, he can just teleport his attack in hearts, also if he chaos control he can just ignore that right?


Good, that is solved then


Good thing shadow's is thought based then, he won't need to move


senzu beams

Heart can counter time skip/stop via his Heart reading. And shadow can't teleport close to hearts, he will get crushed/paralysis via passive Gravity. Which then hearts either uses Gravity cage, or EE

 

[Greenshifter]

I mean, he can just teleport his attack in hearts

Oh if that works Ig that's Shadow's best wincon.

 

[Eseseso]

Can EE bypass invulnerability?

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Wow a nice improvement, I stand corrected.

Guys, Hearts does have enough resistance layers right?

I can wank him to be

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Oh if that works Ig that's Shadow's best wincon.

Depends on the attacks, because they'll just be crushed or stopped.

 

[Dagoth_OwO]

I mean, he can just teleport his attack in hearts, also if he chaos control he can just ignore that right?

 

[Eseseso]

How can Shadow teleport his attack into Hearts's body?

 

[Ss3micah]

I can't make full evaluations because im at work
And I can tell by time I get off work this beautiful debate is gonna end before I get my own points in

 

[Greenshifter]

Can EE bypass invulnerability?

Yes

Depends on the attacks, because they'll just be crushed or stopped.

Didn't know Hearts likes to crush his own body.

I can wank him to be

That... isn't reassuring

How can Shadow teleport his attack into Hearts's body?

@omegabronic What are you cookin'?

 

[Greenshifter]

I can't make full evaluations because im at work
And I can tell by time I get off work this beautiful debate is gonna end before I get my own points in

Yeah sorry, though I'm gonna sleep soon so things might get circular very soon.

 

[Eseseso]

Since EE can apparently bypass Invulnerability, voting Hearts via superior LS and Invun.

 

[TheGreatBanana]

Yes

Didn't know Hearts likes to crush his own body.

That... isn't reassuring

@omegabronic What are you cookin'?

Didn't know shadow can teleport attacks in his opponent body

 

[TheGreatBanana]

I can't make full evaluations because im at work
And I can tell by time I get off work this beautiful debate is gonna end before I get my own points in

Its okay. We'll create another match up 👁👁

 

[GlaceonGamez471]

Then why isn't my boy Metal Overlord 2-B/2-A?

he isn't 2-B/2-A yet.

 

[Omegabronic]

Heart can counter time skip/stop via his Heart reading.

how tho? He can read and know what shadow will do, but how would he stop it?

And shadow can't teleport close to hearts, he will get crushed/paralysis via passive Gravity.

Which he would survive with his invulnerability and then teleport out of it, use chaos control and then come back to attack, pretty sure gravity does not work while time is stoped

Which then hearts either uses Gravity cage, or EE

What is stoping shadow from using his 54x boost in speed to dodge the EE wave and his teleport to get out of the gravity cadge?

Can EE bypass invulnerability?

Yep, but heart's one is via a wave or covering in cubes cadge, which shadow can avoid in some ways

Depends on the attacks, because they'll just be crushed or stopped.

What if he teleports them into hearts?

How can Shadow teleport his attack into Hearts's body?

By teleporting them into it? Like, i honestly don't understand the question

 

[Omegabronic]

All that said, if hearts is fast enough i can see he wining, so i will vote incon for now

Also a fair sonic vs dbh match, i though only goku could pull it off lmao

 

[Eseseso]

By teleporting them into it? Like, i honestly don't understand the question

When has he been shown simply teleporting an attack inside someone's body?

Cuz that's low-key unsettling.