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I'm on PC now luckily. Not sure how long I will be on tho, lol. I assume from the edit you figured out where the scaling comes from?
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Hearts vs Shadow
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The only accepted multiplier assuming that's what you're looking for is for the Spin Dash, Boost, Super Peel Out, and Drop Dash which are about a 55x increase. It's in the speed section of Sonic and Shadow's profile IIRC.
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your comment mentioned where, but I'd have to look when I'm off work, cuz I be suffering on mobile too
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I was looking for his speed that's supposedly quadrillions of times above immeasurable without amps
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Rip. Alright, good luck. The Sonic profiles are kinda... big..
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Oh, that's not on the page. No one puts how many times above baseline someone is above Immeasurable or Infinite speed on profiles. You usually denote a scaling chain with an "at least" and then note parts of the scaling chain in the justification.
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a blog would also be nice
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Then where is it from
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why exactly?
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Yeah, I planned on making a blog for just Super Form scaling since putting all multiplier related things on one page gets crowded.
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It's on the general scaling thread for Sonic. I can't remember if it's linked on the verse page, but I'd suggest looking there. To summarize it, Super Sonic gets faster with Base Sonic (In Frontiers, when Sonic gets 2x faster for example, Super Sonic moves 2x faster during his fights), and from 2006 up to Forces, Sonic gets IIRC, quadrillions if not quintillions of times faster (Tho we still need to update that blog as there's more scaling chains that have yet to be added to that).
Though what you should look at in specific is Classic Sonic in Generations jumping from single digit FTL to Quadrillions of times FTL in Forces. The blog is a bit behind though IIRC. It still mentions the old 8x accepted value of boost which is now about a 55x increase. We plan to update it soon. Didn't think it'd be important in any match-up soon tho
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ok then, what can Hearts do against layered Intangibility of jade ghost then?
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Energy drain both of the wisps.
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what if shadow uses them before that happens with his speed amps?
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Passive Energy Absorption: (can drain and absorb an opponents' energy)
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but like, i know that, i really do, it is just that no one is giving me a source or a link to how fast that happens
like, how quickly does it drain?
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what suggests it's layered
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Metal, who has non physicap interaction, can't interact with it
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Probally at the same speed as they fight i think.
The character are like immesurable, so the energy drain that are passive draining them is as fast.
Now, i just need to find a thing.
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mind providing me the scene where it happens
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time stamp would've been nice, but I found it
that's only one type of wisp though, and it's special property is intangibility
near the beginning and mostly throughout the entire video, he's constantly grabbing the wisps
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Sorry about that, forgot to put it in and only edited to account for that just a bit ago
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Well, shadow is naturally faster than that without speed equal, so i don't think that will be fast enough
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Yeah, but if shadow uses that, hearts can't touch him with anything
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dunno bout that one, his page says Ki users can interact with souls, illusions, invisible and intangible energy, abstract beings who function off of will/thought
I'd say he can interact just fine
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But the Heroes characters are also faster trought.
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Not really, unless he has layered NPI, all that shows is that he can interact with a lot of different stuff, not that it is layered
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Shadow is quintilions of time baseline Imeasurable, are heroes chars that fast?
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not how it works, this is the same case with layered 3-D resistance having nothing against 4-D potency
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According with the guys above, yes i think.
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Hm? No. As of right now, the most they've stated is being 50,000x baseline Immeasurable. They've also conceded to Heroes being slower outside of speed equal. And that's not account for the planned CRT, or CRT that just got accepted that further places Shadow higher in speed scaling.
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Is it 4D tho?
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Uhh Its 500,000 above baseline for the very very very very very very very very very very very wekeast incarnation of CC Goku. Or 250.000 for the weakest incarnation of xeno goku. But since DBH Doesn't have a scaling blog to go with now, ill concede on shadow being faster.
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Is there a scaling blog for Segaverse? We just don’t have the blog that’s all
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How good is invencibilty of super forms? I think Hearts can just one-shot with one of his attacks.
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considering they can interact with infinite Zamasu, who already covered the future timeline and was spreading to even the regular (and has 4-D range listed), yes
and Heroes Zamasu simply upscales vastly from there
and what, NPI by itself can't have dimensionality, only interact with such, right?
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My bad, missed a 0. If that ever does get finished up, ya'll can let me know. A lot still needs to be added to the Sonic scaling, so I'll mention when that gets wrapped up.
There is, but I think it's a bit outdated IIRC. It's on the Sonic verse page. We actually had a CRT to update it with currently accepted stuff
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