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Cell Games Across The Multiverse | Cell vs Sonic GRACE
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I think Sonic's small size + greater agility + greater skill + greater reactions + speed amps means Cell literally won't land a single hit on Sonic. I think Sonic will attack Cell while running metaphorical and literal circles around him, peppering him with an AP advantage that would inevitably result in Cell demonstrating his regeneration. Sonic see's he's unable to kill Cell by conventional means, then resorts to sealing him away.
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Quite frankly, despite being an (admittledly old and no longer interested) sonic fan, I think Cell wins this despite the advantages Sonic has.
For starters, though Sonic holds the AP advantage, Cell's Zenkai ability plus the genetics he inherited from Frieza means that though Cell will initially be on the back foot, he will grow much stronger and faster overtime, even with Sonic's own ability to get stronger through Accelerated Development. I mean, the Zenkai he got that turned him into Super Perfect Cell allowed him to go from being manhandled by Gohan to matching him in power (somewhat at least). No ability Sonic has would be able to allow him to vaporize Cell all at once, so Cell could reliably grow stronger and fast enough to match Sonic in time.
A lot of people would also say that Sonic would seal him away, but aside from the fact that its not exactly in character for Sonic to use such an ability in a fight, Instant Transmission can work across dimensions, like how Goku can teleport from the Afterlife to Earth. Hell, that was how Cell managed to return to Earth in the first place.
Lastly, thought it sounds somewhat lame ... Cell could just ... fly up into the sky and blow up the entire planet they are fighting on. It's lame... but he can do that. He was gonna do it when he was getting stomped by SSJ2 Gohan as P-Cell, the only reason he didn't was because Gohan stopped it. I don't think Sonic would be able to do a similar thing here and stop Cell from doing that. And without the Super transformation Sonic would just be stuck in space until he either gets blasted or pushed into the sun.
So yeah I think Cell wins this.
For starters, though Sonic holds the AP advantage, Cell's Zenkai ability plus the genetics he inherited from Frieza means that though Cell will initially be on the back foot, he will grow much stronger and faster overtime, even with Sonic's own ability to get stronger through Accelerated Development. I mean, the Zenkai he got that turned him into Super Perfect Cell allowed him to go from being manhandled by Gohan to matching him in power (somewhat at least). No ability Sonic has would be able to allow him to vaporize Cell all at once, so Cell could reliably grow stronger and fast enough to match Sonic in time.
A lot of people would also say that Sonic would seal him away, but aside from the fact that its not exactly in character for Sonic to use such an ability in a fight, Instant Transmission can work across dimensions, like how Goku can teleport from the Afterlife to Earth. Hell, that was how Cell managed to return to Earth in the first place.
Lastly, thought it sounds somewhat lame ... Cell could just ... fly up into the sky and blow up the entire planet they are fighting on. It's lame... but he can do that. He was gonna do it when he was getting stomped by SSJ2 Gohan as P-Cell, the only reason he didn't was because Gohan stopped it. I don't think Sonic would be able to do a similar thing here and stop Cell from doing that. And without the Super transformation Sonic would just be stuck in space until he either gets blasted or pushed into the sun.
So yeah I think Cell wins this.
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Sonic can breathe in space so blowing up the planet isn’t viable.
Magic hands sealing blocks teleportation and CC can seal to the point even a 6-D cosmology wiper can’t reach.
And Sonic’s AD let him get millions of times stronger in 5 minutes just cuz.
Magic hands sealing blocks teleportation and CC can seal to the point even a 6-D cosmology wiper can’t reach.
And Sonic’s AD let him get millions of times stronger in 5 minutes just cuz.
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I don't think that's his point trought, he din't say Sonic would die because he can't breath in space.
Is because he can't fly, so when Cell destroy the planet, he would be send flying of to the Sun, or Cell can just blast Sonic into the Sun If he din't... actually nope, since Sonic can teleport and more or less move in space with his dash.
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Sonic characters have been able to survive falling into the sun since Shuffle.I don't think that's his point trought, he din't say Sonic would die because he can't breath in space.
Is because he can't fly, so when Cell destroy the planet, he would be send flying of to the Sun, or Cell can just blast Sonic into the Sun If he din't... actually nope, since Sonic can teleport and more or less move in space with his dash.
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The profile says It was a a star trought, not the Sun.
Trought, I guess there's ins't much difference
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According to the Boost page users have Spaceflight, so Sonic wouldn't be helpless in the vacuum of space. Sonic can also withstand the heat of the sun
Also I don't frankly don't see why Sonic couldn't stop Cell from destroying the planet.
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Sonic doesn’t have boost yet, this is pre-Ultimate Emerl
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Adventure Sonic has all of Classic Sonic's abilities according to the page
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which Sonic can and has survived
Also he can just......teleport him and Cell back i to a Planet where they can fightor Cell can just blast Sonic into the Sun If he din't... actually nope, since Sonic can teleport and more or less move in space with his dash.
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He has via Scalling to Classic Sonic
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Ah, right, Classic's shit. Then Ring Time should also be an option for putting Cell down
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Guess Sonic defeat cell and becomes the world champion of the Earth FRA
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Yeah Sonic has chaos control to avoid falling into the sunIs because he can't fly, so when Cell destroy the planet, he would be send flying of to the Sun, or Cell can just blast Sonic into the Sun If he din't... actually nope, since Sonic can teleport and more or less move in space with his dash.
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Except he can't fly, so he's pretty much stuck up there.
There is no magic hands sealing on either Classic or Adventure Sonic's profile, and CC has never shown the ability to seal away higher dimensional beings. Sure, Silver could seal Iblis away with CC, but he isn't exactly capable of threatening any higher dimensions beyond that of earth.
That's NLF
Great, so now we can techncally backscale every single version of Sonic due to Generations. Why do we even have seperate profiles then?
In any case, Adventure Sonic shouldn't have the ability to do the spaceflight boost because this is the adventure era version of Sonic who went through everything normally without having met his future. The Classic Sonic that is seen on the proflie shouldn't even be part of Adventure Sonic's proflie because THAT version of Sonic is technically a paradox who ended up seeing the events of his future self, and ended up learning things that he otherwise wouldn't have learned till much later.
Also, the Spaceflight Boost wasn't used by Sonic until Sonic Lost world, so Adventure Sonic wouldn't even know how to do it.
Because Sonic can't use Ki or another similar energy projection attack to match Cell's attack and stop the earth from exploding.
Sonic falling into the sun was not the main point about why Cell would win. It's that if Cell blows up the planet, Sonic literally has nothing to run on. All the speed in the world wouldn't matter if you are stuck in space.
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He gets magic hands in SA2, which is Adventure era. And what I meant by CC is its range it can teleport things to is seemingly outside the range of Solaris, since Blaze teleported herself with CC and yet never showed up in end of the world.
No, it’s on the profiles, he was solar system before fighting UE and immediately matched him after Emerl went ultimate, which is accepted as a solar system to galaxy level jump.
Sonic can teleport with Chaos Control.
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They're not saying they can seal higher dimensional beings (Though they should be able to). He's saying they can seal/bfr people beyond 6D range.
What's NLF about that? That's just what happened in canon? It's on his profile...
Sonic in Adventure can already fire wind projectiles that's on his profile. He can also just home attack into any energy projectile that comes his way.
Not really a problem thanks to Chaos Control
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He has the Boost, which gives him free space flight
"Sealing (With Magic Hands)"
It is there
.........CC has 5D range and is smurf in potency, so yeah, it can indeed seal HDE beings up to the range it has, not that it matters here since Cell doesn't have the range to come back from being BFR'd that far, much less with sealing on top of that
No? That is.....literally what happens, also no, NLF cannot be here since no one is saying there is no limit......at least use the falacies correctly
cause he has way too much to be in a single profile, it is the same reason we separate DB Goku from DBZ Goku, but they are the same character in the end of the day, what the past version has obviously the future version has as well, unless given a reason for why they don't, example, Future Gohan doesn't have an arm while past Gohan has
Nope, retroactively he went through the events of Gens and Forces since Classic Sonic, who grows to be Adventure Sonic, did
No? Classic is just Sonic's true past, so it applies to Adventure era Sonic retroactively so, as in, the timeline changed to be that he always knew it due to Gens + Forces
Classic grows to be Adventure and Modern.....that is just a fact
It is......a basic Boost ability to propel you forward, so Sonic would likely try if put on such a position, not that it matters since Cell's trash travel speed means that he simply can't get enough distance to destroy the Earth before Sonic just decides to use Ring time to transform Cell into rings
yes he can, he has projectiles that could collide with Cell's own, like Sonic wind and shockwaves + he can just Kick the blast away physically or use one of his several barriers to absorb the damage to fill the ichiroko gauge
Also this is assuming Cell will have the change to do that given......every advantage Sonic has, he for one simply cannot get away from Sonic due to his abysmal travel speed
He can just use Chaos Control to TP Cell and him to another planet.......also Cell simply cannot destroy the planet unless Sonic let's him, which he won't, at worst he uses Avatar to summon several clones to keep Cell ocupied for him to use any of his hax to instantly win, like Ring time, CC, etc
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Adventure Sonic might not use the boost in character, but he pretty much does use Chaos Control to teleport in this era.
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What stops Sonic from using Chaos Control to teleport to the moon? And the boost would still work in space. Sonic can naturally survive in space like Cell so there's no issue here
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To be fair, that is listed under his optional equipment tab in his P&A section despite it being listed as standard in his equipment section. Page needs a bit of fixing
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It should be standard for Adventure Sonic since he gets it in game
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5 votes for Sonic, 1 vote for Cell
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Can you make a vote poll for us to see who voted for who in the OP?
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Sure
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Updated the OP, I realized one user voted twice, so it's 4 votes for Sonic and 1 vote for Cell
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Ig I'll vote for Sonic if this isn't a stomp
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same for me
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And that’s Grace
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Btw, due to an applied CRT now Sonic's Regen Neg is too big for Cell's Regen to cover......sooo, yeah it became a stomp
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So... remove from profiles then?
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But I don’t see Adventure Sonic having regen neg in base?
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Given the end that can neg Cell's regen is a possibly, it could be restricted and added as-is
He gets it from Classic
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Classic does.
