He who shakes the infinite universe VS She who is the infinite universe

[The_real_cal_howard]

I'm seriously this close to doing Goku vs Dream Devourer (fight to KO) because of all these "Goku's well above being Low 2-C via presence" statements. Coming from someone who watched Pokemon and Digimon shitstomp 90% of that tier due to being Low 2-C via pretty much those reasons, I know it's not true.

 

[Schnee_One]

I need to remove that "Resistance to spite manipulation" on your page

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Boi, I got the biggest sense of vendetta out of all the notable members on the wiki ovo.

 

[Bluetrekking]

Don't worry. 90% of the Valkyrie Crusade profiles are currently taking feats and blowing them out of proportion.

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

I'm seriously this close to doing Goku vs Dream Devourer (fight to KO) because of all these "Goku's well above being Low 2-C via presence" statements. Coming from someone who watched Pokemon and Digimon shitstomp 90% of that tier due to being Low 2-C via pretty much those reasons, I know it's not true.

Wait a minute now...

You can't compare DB to Pokemon/Digimon.

If we count Pokemon into this, Goku would be a Celestial Fighting Type (Without much hax moves, btw). However, he'd get raped. Like...HORRIBLY! Same thing applies to Digimon as well. I can compare Son Goku with the Valkyire Crusade peeps. But, apply Digimon and Pokemon into this, and...well...

Son Goku, as much as I can defend you, you have to accept defeat at ONE point. D:

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

Also, the Dream Devourer? Hm, tbh, i'd love to see a thread like that. But, i'd want to know Dream Devourers feats before voting.

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

Boi, I got the biggest sense of vendetta out of all the notable members on the wiki ovo.

Ehehehehe...

Funny joke. My vandetta's beyond that of yours.

 

[Mand21]

You guys know only staff are allowed to close threads, right? ._.

 

[Chartate101]

He said notable members

 

[Schnee_One]

Also, the Dream Devourer? Hm, tbh, i'd love to see a thread like that. But, i'd want to know Dream Devourers feats before voting.

Bruh.

You're not actually saying Goku has a chance against Lavos are you?

 

[Mand21]

I meant it to the people saying this thread should be closed, but staff members have already shown up and they didn't close the thread.

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

He said notable members

And. I. Said. My. Vandetta. Was. Greater.

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

Also, the Dream Devourer? Hm, tbh, i'd love to see a thread like that. But, i'd want to know Dream Devourers feats before voting.

Bruh.
You're not actually saying Goku has a chance against Lavos are you?

...

OHHHHH HELL NAW! See, this is why I asked for feats. D:


Idk who Dream Devourers is. lol

 

[JackJoyce]

Goku was confident if he had a senzu bean he could take infinite zamasu out.

He's just stupit

 

[Jimboydejuan12]

ikr going Goku FRA.

im a DBS fanboys really liked watched right now

 

[AntorusTheBurningThrone]

Goku was confident if he had a senzu bean he could take infinite zamasu out.

He's just stupit

"stupit" Also, Goku's a GENIUS when it comes to combat.

 

[JackJoyce]

First of all how is he going to destroy an entire timeline? Even if he does he'll die in the void

 

[Akreious]

We've already agreed to close this thread for now. There's not enough justification or information on Verth to determine any accurate conclusion. No reason to keep on debating.

 

[Parugonu]

Soooo..inconclusive?

 

[Stryk3r1337]

As much as im a goku fan, if verthandi is an entire timeline, goku cant beat her. So this is a stomp

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Goku fra.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Verthandi reality warps Goku out of existence or blitzes him via nigh-omnipresent vs MFTL+ due to speed unequal. Pick your favorite.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Is speed not equalized?

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

Is speed not equalized?

yes

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Low 2-C by existing is literally Zamasu.

And both Goku and Jiren stomp him.

 

[Schnee_One]

Still can't beat her Type 8

Still gets RW out of existence

 

[Wokistan]

While AP isn't an issue, speed unequal, actual abilities, and Gonu not really having a way to fight something that huge make this seem stompy against him.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Low 2-C by existing is literally Zamasu.

And both Goku and Jiren stomp him.

Zamasu has no hax though. Verthandi has time stop and reality warping.

Plus here's something I should also bring up. Goku's AP is Low 2-C, but his range is only high universal, so he doesn't even have the range to bust a space-time continuum. That means it's impossible for him to actually kill someone who's a living space-time continuum. This is a stomp.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

Goku literally resists time stop.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Goku literally resists time stop.

Hit is 3-A though. It's NLF to assume that Goku would resist a 4D level time stop.

Plus there's also the fact that he only has high universal range so he has no way to kill her.

 

[Asuka_the_Demonic_Empress]

I mean, if Hit´s time stop in the tournament of power restricted Jiren (Low 2-C)....

 

[Wokistan]

I mean, if Hit´s time stop in the tournament of power restricted Jiren (Low 2-C)....

Juren himself is only 3D though, despite having 4D AP. Low 2-Cs got a lot of 3D characters.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I mean, if Hit´s time stop in the tournament of power restricted Jiren (Low 2-C)....

Then you know Goku isn't resisting that. Verthandi is infinitely stronger than Hit.

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Being the universe =/= universal by existing

The former's baseline Low 2-C while the latter is muuuuuch higher than that.

 

[Schnee_One]

I mean, if Hit´s time stop in the tournament of power restricted Jiren (Low 2-C)....

You mean it didn't work?

So it can't work here?

Noice

 

[Schnee_One]

Being the universe =/= universal by existing

The former's baseline Low 2-C while the latter is muuuuuch higher than that.

Hey Cal

Hakai?

 

[The_real_cal_howard]

Sure thing.

Hakai