Haruhi Suzumiya VS Veronica (Fire Emblem)

[Sound_of_Infinity]

The girl who isn't aware of her power against the girl who can't control her power

2-C versions were used

Speed equalized if necessary

Haruhi : 0

Veronica : 0



I approve this!!

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Sooo...how is Veronica 2-C here?

Has she already performed the Tempest Rite? Is she beginning the rite (which has an unknown time frame) at the start of the match? Or can Veronica just choose to do it if she wants?

Also, the Tempest is entirely not combat applicable

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

harui...does she want her to die (willing=/=wanting)?

 

[Sound_of_Infinity]

What does Veronica's Tempest actually do?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

It's basically a storm that goes around merging and/or destroying timelines and warps space-time while doing so

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It's basically a storm that goes around merging and/or destroying timelines

how much does it take to make?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

It's unknown, I believe the rite was performed off screen

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

yeah, but it has to have been given some aproximation?

 

[Schnee_One]

Veronica can actually fight

Therefore she wins

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

The Tempest will probably not be a factor in this anyway, as it will just go do whatever it feels like, and Veronica wouldn't just use it during a fight

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Veronica can actually fight
Therefore she wins

haruis hax should counter that depending on her state of mind

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

She's going to counter a 9-A cloud that appears around her?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

She's going to counter a 9-A cloud that appears around her?

her passive hax would have destroyed the world and create a new one

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

But has it defended against an attack?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

But has it defended against an attack?

are, are you implying that the ability to destroy the universe and go to another one wouldent stop it?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

I am implying that if it hasn't stopped her from being attacked then it shouldn't

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I am implying that if it hasn't stopped her from being attacked then it shouldn't

how would destroying an entire universe not work on tier 6 attacks? her reality waroing works by doing whatever she wishes to become true, from giving laser eyes, to creating a new univere if shes too bored

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

If it doesn't defend against attacks then it doesn't defend against attacks

Plain and simple

And the attack will literally appear already attacking her

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

If it doesn't defend against attacks then it doesn't defend against attacks
Plain and simple

And the attack will literally appear already attacking her

destroying universes through emotions but cant destroy clouds? that doesent make sense

its a passive wish fullfilment, so if suzumiya wishes veronica to die then shed get the 2c power trying to kill her


its passive destruction and creation that creates universes, higher dimensional alien with reality warping, makes time travelers go back in time and gives random peapole esper powers cuz she wanted

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Are you telling me she's actually going to be able to think against an attack that will instantly kill her?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

are you telling me that the attack can cross 4 km before a 2c power will destroy her?

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

If the battle puts them at that distance then Veronica literally cannot do anything as that is out of her range, SBA puts them at the maximum distance that they can both attack

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

and harui has universal range

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

and can affect the future and outher space aliens

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

And Veronica has "tens of meters", therefore, they start "Tens of meters" away from each other

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The characters start as far away from each other as the highest range of the fighters is,

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

The highest range they can BOTH attack, with a 4km maximum

Veronica cannot attack at 4km, therefore the battle starts in her range

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

The highest range they can BOTH attack

at which point dsoies it say that? the highesdt range they can attack at, not the largest common range, if not sniping wouldent be a thing

 

[PaChi2]

The highest range they can BOTH attack, with a 4km maximum

Veronica cannot attack at 4km, therefore the battle starts in her range

^^^^^^^^^

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

^^^^^^^^^

tzhe sba doesent say that, highest means highest

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

Highest range of the fighters means both of them

Not just whoever has the highest range

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

yes, the HIGHEST they have, and it still afect the future and past, so its kinda useless

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

And the highest THEY have is tens of meters

And Veronica still instantly kills her upon contact, so she isn't thinking about preventing it any time soon

 

[DontTalkDT]

Highest range of the fighters means both of them
Not just whoever has the highest range

No it actually means the higher range that any of the two characters have, but not more than 4km. (in other words maximum from range1 and range2)

So if one character has 10m range and the other has 20m range they start at 20m range.

The idea behind the rule being the way it is, is that a character having a higher range than the opponent is supposed to grant them an advantage (with the 4km limit being due to the location and so that we don't get scenarios with nonsensical distances).

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

And the highest THEY have is tens of meters

its still a moot point, and when there ar etw peapole, one can snipe for a houndred meters, another for ten, than the highest they have is hundreds

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

I have never seen it be treated that way in any thread

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

I have never seen it be treated that way in any thread

and when wasa it a selling factor in a thread, or even discussed?

 

[DontTalkDT]

I have never seen it be treated that way in any thread

Well, I made the page and I didn't just write it down, but it was the result of a thread in which it was decided to be that way exactly due to the given reason and the formulation was agreed upon. So at least when it was established people should have been clear on what it means.

I myself have also seen it being used that way in threads before.


But if it is ambitous, I suppose we should change the text to clarify it.

 

[JustSomeWeirdo]

It honestly feels odd that it isn't set to where they can both attack, as that would honestly seem fair in most cases, but alright

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It honestly feels odd that it isn't set to where they can both attack, as that would honestly seem fair in most cases, but alright

but if that was the case range woul be useless, hell, snipers would get rekt because of it