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Gravity Falls General Discussion Thread

Also, looking at the current speed section of Bill's profile and his sandbox profile, I'm starting to think everyone in this thread is completely unaware of speed types. Where is the evidence that Bill's attack, reaction, combat, perception, flight/travel speed is mftl+ or immeasurable? I hope you don't claim that Bill burned them or anything.
 
CodeCCLL said:
Also, looking at the current speed section of Bill's profile and his sandbox profile, I'm starting to think everyone in this thread is completely unaware of speed types. Where is the evidence that Bill's attack, reaction, combat, perception, flight/travel speed is mftl+ or immeasurable? I hope you don't claim that Bill burned them or anything.
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He burned them.
 
CodeCCLL said:
Also, looking at the current speed section of Bill's profile and his sandbox profile, I'm starting to think everyone in this thread is completely unaware of speed types. Where is the evidence that Bill's attack, reaction, combat, perception, flight/travel speed is mftl+ or immeasurable? I hope you don't claim that Bill burned them or anything.
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He burned them
 
TBH I've always thought that all of those speed types just scaled to each other at infinite/immeasurable. If they can move at those levels period, there really shouldn't be any reason they can't also operate at them unless directly stated otherwise

But yeah I guess there should probably be more evidence. Or maybe there doesn't need to be? I've been meaning to give characters like Discord immeasurable everything speed too anyways
 
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PonePoster said:
TBH I've always thought that all of those speed types just scaled to each other at infinite/immeasurable. If they can move at those levels period, there really shouldn't be any reason they can't also operate at them unless directly stated otherwise

But yeah I guess there should probably be more evidence. Or maybe there doesn't need to be? I've been meaning to give characters like Discord immeasurable everything speed too
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Rest assured it doesn't work that way, having all types of immeasurable speed cost 3 threads and an immeasurable speed explanation blog to me in one of my favorite verses.
 
ShionAH said:
Bill fought Time Baby who from his statements sees Time as something Physical he can move through
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TBF that also doesn't really mean that Time Baby can fight that fast. At least, by site standaaaards

CodeCCLL said:
Rest assured it doesn't work that way, having all types of immeasurable speed cost 3 threads and an immeasurable speed explanation blog to me in one of my favorite verses.
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Could I get a link to them to see the explanations?
 
PonePoster said:
TBF that also doesn't really mean that Time Baby can fight that fast. At least, by site standaaaards
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Tbh Bill also specifically says he can "navigate beyond linear time" and I dont think he can actually navigate or even see where he is going if his perception/reaction was finite.

It is also a pretty strong support, I mean they literally call years "radius" lmao
CodeCCLL said:
Then I suggest you include this in one of your crts.
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I dont need your suggestions.
 
CodeCCLL said:
Yes, it is obvious. I was just wondering if others like me were bothered by this.
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Tbh it's usually that when you have a Immeasurable travel speed feat, you usually scale to all 3 because it wouldn't make sense for your senses to be infinitely below your movements, unless the context makes it clear.

This is how Undertale got Immeasurable, or how Pokemon got Infinite.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Tbh it's usually that when you have a Immeasurable travel speed feat, you usually scale to all 3 because it wouldn't make sense for your senses to be infinitely below your movements, unless the context makes it clear.

This is how Undertale got Immeasurable, or how Pokemon got Infinite.
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Just a simple question:
Do you think Bill will be able to react to the immeasurable speed attack thrown at him from the past or future? That's all, I am leaving.
 
CodeCCLL said:
Just a simple question:
Do you think Bill will be able to react to the immeasurable speed attack thrown at him from the past or future? That's all, I am leaving.
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If Undertale characters are assumed to be able to for a similar feat, I don't see why Bill shouldn't either.

It's a double standard otherwise.
 
PonePoster said:
There's only one multiverse card. The card itself says there's only one. The others in the binder are ******* charizard and gengar bro
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Only one THIS card. Other types of multiverses exist. Just because there is one ace of hearts in the room does not mean there is no ace of diamonds.
 
There’s also probably a confirmation that Bill really is in Stan’s mind… if you write “I’M STILL ON YOUR MIND” as a password, you’ll see first person boat trip, and Stan went to boat trip with Ford…

(Damn it turns out Mat Pat was right all along)
 
Do STODEHTTCENNOC (funny little board) and DIONARAP (interesting article) for neat stuff. And the riddle was solved, the reward for which is wallpapers. To get them you type “DISPENSE MY TREAT.” Not powerscaling related, but neat stuff.
 
StrymULTRA said:
I've talked with him rn and he told the thread is under queque.

Whatever ig.
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This reminds me—Bill’s memetic chrono-travel—Does that register as Acauality Type 3? I don’t think it would, but that’s the closest thing I can think of when indexing “memetic chrono-travel.” Also, how do we interpret Bill’s history with Plato? More specifically, if Bill is an entity within the world of ideas/Mindscape and existed before the universe, does that not make him a Type 1 Concept? Furthermore, he seemingly explained this to Plato with his puppet show (how Platonic Concepts worked via the literal analogue of his body and puppets, which makes sense because Bill’s name and form are merely what he appears to our dumb brains/we’re literally talking to the equivalent of his shadow) or created the idea of Platonic Concepts via inspiring Plato through his puppet show, making them a feature within Gravity Falls via stories/an idea’s ability to shape reality through inspiring people (which also makes sense).
 
RedReaper616 said:
This reminds me—Bill’s memetic chrono-travel—Does that register as Acauality Type 3? I don’t think it would, but that’s the closest thing I can think of when indexing “memetic chrono-travel.” Also, how do we interpret Bill’s history with Plato? More specifically, if Bill is an entity within the world of ideas/Mindscape and existed before the universe, does that not make him a Type 1 Concept? Furthermore, he seemingly explained this to Plato with his puppet show (how Platonic Concepts worked) or created the idea of Platonic Concepts via inspiring Plato through his puppet show, making them a feature within Gravity Falls via stories/an idea’s ability to shape reality.
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This is all absurdly wrong, I'll explain later.
 
Ok so the entire thing of the realm of ideas is that it's not the Platonic stuff that may you think of (don't blame yourself, is just powerscaling rot).

The whole essay is about people becoming immortalized through their stories, due to these stories being forever remembered across generations, thus allowing one's identity to become an idea that will forever exist across human mind, allowing one to have their identity tuned in an idea that will never die, and that will forever influence others' consciousness and thinking. Because of this, Bill describes it as a cycle of fiction and reality creating each other.

This isn't how Plato's actual realm of forms works, which instead are concepts that exist in a realm that is both aspatial and atemporal, with the concepts and objects of the physical world being only shadows of the forms, with anything of the latter being unable to neither reach nor change the forms.

Context is key, you don't just throw Plato in just because the name is coincidentally the same, when the Mindscape works as anything but the actual Platonic Forms.
 
StrymULTRA said:
Ok so the entire thing of the realm of ideas is that it's not the Platonic stuff that may you think of (don't blame yourself, is just powerscaling rot).

The whole essay is about people becoming immortalized through their stories, due to these stories being forever remembered across generations, thus allowing one's identity to become an idea that will forever exist across human mind, allowing one to have their identity tuned in an idea that will never die, and that will forever influence others' consciousness and thinking. Because of this, Bill describes it as a cycle of fiction and reality creating each other.

This isn't how Plato's actual realm of forms works, which instead are concepts that exist in a realm that is both aspatial and atemporal, with the concepts and objects of the physical world being only shadows of the forms, with anything of the latter being unable to neither reach nor change the forms.

Context is key, you don't just throw Plato in just because the name is coincidentally the same, when the Mindscape works as anything but the actual Platonic Forms.
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I meant those as separate—Would Bill be a type 1 concept due to being an idea/abstract entity unbound by space and time/the universe itself, and then questioning on top of that (but separately) if we would consider Bill’s separate moment with Plato as Bill explaining Platonic Concepts or inspiring Platonic Concepts? Personally for the second question I’d lean the latter.

Also, again, separately, what would Bill’s memetic existence be?
 
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