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Granny and Slendrina's verse should be moved to FC/OC.

Livinmeme said:
I am just saying that there are verses that used at one point other IP, but are still on the wiki, to delete one and make the other stay just make you an hypocrite.
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Granny relies on this copyrighted character for it's entire story. Thats why it's a fanfic.

I don't know anything about Dragon Ball or DnD to where i can comment on them, nor do i care. All i know is neither of those verses rely on copyrighted characters that don't belong to them for their story.
 
I also want to note that we do know one company that has a current, legally obtained license to the Slenderman IP, Blue Isle Studios, the team behind The Arrival

They released a new game late last year, are developing a new game that seems to include him, and recently reached out to BHVR Interactive to talk about a collab with Dead By Daylight

So clearly SOMEONE still handles the legal stuff regarding Slenderman, it just isn't public
 
I agree on the points made, HOWEVER, Slenderman indeed has his own game made by DVlopper, but it doesn’t seem to be canon to anything, and it seems to be a thing appart. The « Slenderman » that appears in the house of Slendrina and the child of Slendrina is actually NEVER called Slenderman (from my experience after playing the games). For this reason, we allowed to keep the operator, so I think this specific Slenderman falls into that category.
 
Scourge_8 said:
Slenderman indeed has his own game made by DVlopper, but it doesn’t seem to be canon to anything, and it seems to be a thing appart.
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It's an official DVloper game, so you'd have to prove that it's not canon, not the other way around. Especially when Slendrina appears in the Slenderman game, which indicates that the Slenderman from the Slendrina games is exactly the same.

Scourge_8 said:
The « Slenderman » that appears in the house of Slendrina and the child of Slendrina is actually NEVER called Slenderman (from my experience after playing the games).
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It doesn't matter, it's the exact same character from Slenderman: Rise Again/Slenderman: Stands unless you can prove otherwise.

Scourge_8 said:
For this reason, we allowed to keep the operator, so I think this specific Slenderman falls into that category.
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The Operator is a different case, it's been made clear that he's a separate entity, he's just based on Slenderman. In this case, the character is called Slenderman and the creator of the game admits to using the character even though he's not allowed to.

Scourge_8 said:
He’s literally only called Slendrina’s father. In the official game summary
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And what? It's official information about the game :v
 
Scourge_8 said:
I agree on the points made, HOWEVER, Slenderman indeed has his own game made by DVlopper, but it doesn’t seem to be canon to anything, and it seems to be a thing appart. The « Slenderman » that appears in the house of Slendrina and the child of Slendrina is actually NEVER called Slenderman (from my experience after playing the games). For this reason, we allowed to keep the operator, so I think this specific Slenderman falls into that category.
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Slendrina series lacks a concrete canon and nothing in it seems to contradict the game plus slendrina already appeared in the Slenderman game by DVloper
 
TheShape03 said:
It's an official DVloper game, so you'd have to prove that it's not canon, not the other way around. Especially when Slendrina appears in the Slenderman game, which indicates that the Slenderman from the Slendrina games is exactly the same.


It doesn't matter, it's the exact same character from Slenderman: Rise Again/Slenderman: Stands unless you can prove otherwise.
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I just don’t think one single game that was made before Slendrina and Granny games were even a thing should invalidate the verse as a whole as the creator has clearly and explicitly refrained from using the term « Slenderman » anywhere after that one old game, referring to it only as Slendrina’s father, father etc…
TheShape03 said:
And what? It's official information about the game :v
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Well yeah, that’s my point.

I would also like to point out how as opposed to fan fictions like EMH or Tribetwelve, Granny is actually licensed, «
Unless otherwise stated, Granny.Games and/or it’s licensors own the intellectual property rights for all material on Granny.Games . All intellectual property rights are reserved. You may view and/or print pages from https://www. Granny.Games for your own personal use subject to restrictions set in these terms and conditions.) DVlopper stated himself that the reason he didn’t use Slenderman in the Granny series was to avoid invalidating the Granny license, so I could argue that although Slendeina series is fanfic, Granny isn’t and that the collabs between Slendrina and Granny are in the same way two different franchises collab together, where its basically a retconned and/or different version of the character.
 
Scourge_8 said:
I just don’t think one single game that was made before Slendrina and Granny games were even a thing should invalidate the verse as a whole as the creator has clearly and explicitly refrained from using the term « Slenderman » anywhere after that one old game, referring to it only as Slendrina’s father, father etc…

Well yeah, that’s my point.

I would also like to point out how as opposed to fan fictions like EMH or Tribetwelve, Granny is actually licensed, «
Unless otherwise stated, Granny.Games and/or it’s licensors own the intellectual property rights for all material on Granny.Games . All intellectual property rights are reserved. You may view and/or print pages from https://www. Granny.Games for your own personal use subject to restrictions set in these terms and conditions.) DVlopper stated himself that the reason he didn’t use Slenderman in the Granny series was to avoid invalidating the Granny license, so I could argue that although Slendeina series is fanfic, Granny isn’t and that the collabs between Slendrina and Granny are in the same way two different franchises collab together, where its basically a retconned and/or different version of the character.
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Slenderman rises again was released on December 19th while the first Slendrina game was released on November 4
 
Scourge_8 said:
I just don’t think one single game that was made before Slendrina and Granny games were even a thing should invalidate the verse as a whole as the creator has clearly and explicitly refrained from using the term « Slenderman » anywhere after that one old game, referring to it only as Slendrina’s father, father etc…

Well yeah, that’s my point.

I would also like to point out how as opposed to fan fictions like EMH or Tribetwelve, Granny is actually licensed, «
Unless otherwise stated, Granny.Games and/or it’s licensors own the intellectual property rights for all material on Granny.Games . All intellectual property rights are reserved. You may view and/or print pages from https://www. Granny.Games for your own personal use subject to restrictions set in these terms and conditions.) DVlopper stated himself that the reason he didn’t use Slenderman in the Granny series was to avoid invalidating the Granny license, so I could argue that although Slendeina series is fanfic, Granny isn’t and that the collabs between Slendrina and Granny are in the same way two different franchises collab together, where its basically a retconned and/or different version of the character.
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Granny and Slendrina are clearly connected since nosferatu appears in the 2nd game and Slendrina mother is in the 1st one
 
Scourge_8 said:
I would also like to point out how as opposed to fan fictions like EMH or Tribetwelve, Granny is actually licensed, «
Unless otherwise stated, Granny.Games and/or it’s licensors own the intellectual property rights for all material on Granny.Games . All intellectual property rights are reserved. You may view and/or print pages from https://www. Granny.Games for your own personal use subject to restrictions set in these terms and conditions.) DVlopper stated himself that the reason he didn’t use Slenderman in the Granny series was to avoid invalidating the Granny license, so I could argue that although Slendeina series is fanfic, Granny isn’t and that the collabs between Slendrina and Granny are in the same way two different franchises collab together, where its basically a retconned and/or different version of the character.
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If this is the case, im more incline to think Granny can stay. It being licensed and the creators themselves know using Slenderman would kill chances for the license, it sounds like the games that had slenderman in them are simply non-canon now.
 
Vyfourthaccount said:
Slenderman rises again was released on December 19th while the first Slendrina game was released on November 4
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But you get my point, why should a very old game from back when Slenderman was still public domain invalidate the whole verse if he has refrain from using the term « Slenderman » after, it doesn’t give it the consistency to be fanfic imo
 
Comiphorous said:
If this is the case, im more incline to think Granny can stay. It being licensed and the creators themselves know using Slenderman would kill chances for the license, it sounds like the games that had slenderman in them are simply non-canon now.
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It doesn't really make sense since DVloper clearly had the intent to make the game take place after slendrina X due to the screenshots of it being showed in the room where Slendrina mother is
 
Comiphorous said:
If this is the case, im more incline to think Granny can stay. It being licensed and the creators themselves know using Slenderman would kill chances for the license, it sounds like the games that had slenderman in them are simply non-canon now.
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The games using Slenderman are probably still canon to themselves but not to Granny
 
Vyfourthaccount said:
It doesn't really make sense since DVloper clearly had the intent to make the game take place after slendrina X due to the screenshots of it being showed in the room where Slendrina mother is
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Yeah but again, I think these franchise collab in the same way image comic characters collab together when its retconned or different versions of characters and are not fully canon to one another on all aspects, and even if they did collab it wouldn’t invalidate Granny’s license
 
Vyfourthaccount said:
From what I remember no, but should be obviously a sequel to other games
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Well then Slenderina X is good. there isn't any infringement on any copyright when the copyright doesn't appear or get named in anyway.

It seems like the law agrees aswell, consiering granny is still a licensed IP despite that game.
Scourge_8 said:
Nope
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Granny should be fine assuming everything that's been said now is correct.
 
Scourge_8 said:
Yeah but again, I think these franchise collab in the same way image comic characters collab together when its retconned or different versions of characters and are not fully canon to one another on all aspects, and even if they did collab it wouldn’t invalidate Granny’s license
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Thinking now, I think it can be canon to granny, it's just that only the 1st Slendrina and that Slenderman game ain't canon due to not having lore at all
 
Scourge_8 said:
But you get my point, why should a very old game from back when Slenderman was still public domain invalidate the whole verse if he has refrain from using the term « Slenderman » after, it doesn’t give it the consistency to be fanfic imo
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I guess that game can have it's own page on FC wiki
 
Also while we're at it, I just wanna say that I still think that the whole something awful thread of Slenderman can be canon due to surge encouraging the creation of Slenderman content there
 
Scourge_8 said:
I would also like to point out how as opposed to fan fictions like EMH or Tribetwelve, Granny is actually licensed, «
Unless otherwise stated, Granny.Games and/or it’s licensors own the intellectual property rights for all material on Granny.Games . All intellectual property rights are reserved. You may view and/or print pages from https://www. Granny.Games for your own personal use subject to restrictions set in these terms and conditions.) DVlopper stated himself that the reason he didn’t use Slenderman in the Granny series was to avoid invalidating the Granny license, so I could argue that although Slendeina series is fanfic, Granny isn’t and that the collabs between Slendrina and Granny are in the same way two different franchises collab together, where its basically a retconned and/or different version of the character.
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Bro, that page "granny.games" is not managed by DVloper, it is a pirate game platform page with a "Granny" theme, full of mods, or junk games that are basically a copy of Granny.

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I wish Granny had a license, so DVloper could sue the creator of "Granny Remake" who is making money off of an idea that isn't his xddd.
 
TheShape03 said:
Bro, that page "granny.games" is not managed by DVloper, it is a pirate game platform page with a "Granny" theme, full of mods, or junk games that are basically a copy of Granny.

fgctrhbdhgqd1.gif


I wish Granny had a license, so DVloper could sue the creator of "Granny Remake" who is making money off of an idea that isn't his xddd.
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Granny has a license, at the bottom it clearly sais " © 2017-2020 DVloper.Granny, Granny 2, The Granny characters, images and logos are trademarks of DVloper. All Rights Reserved. This Reddit post explains why DVlopper can’t sue the Granny remake guys
 
The game being copyrighted on App Store is because back then since it was public domain you could copyright and license content that had Slenderman in it (although not for Slenderman himself), but rn it’s not the case anymore and he could get in trouble for this I think lol.

However regarding Granny it’s explicitly stated that the characters, logos and other elements are licensed and owned by DVloper
 
It’s True, but as vy said App Store isn’t reliable I think you get a license for any game you publish on App Store but it doesn’t mean you get the trademark for any character in the game, those are different things
 
If it's really this unclear about what's really canon or not, maybe it should be saved in a blog post and deleted, and have it be cleared up before coming back.
 
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