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Tsudade is only 2x stronger in AP. For her to be able to kill Akuma with one attack she would need something like, 8 gigatons
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And guess what this is.
We have rules and stuff to regulate this, oneshots in-verse work differently from fiction to fiction, for indexing and vs matches we only use raw numbers, and those we have aren't stomp-worthy.Also regardless of wether or not there is no multiplier, thats a character who is 2x stronger than akuma scaling and she did that to him. Imagine what she'd do to akuma.
I'm confused by this, are you saying we should ignore her scaling chain? Because saying she's just vaguely above 2.65 GT isn't accurate when she consistently one-shots characters that significantly upscale that value.That's not how it works, we don't use in-verse oneshots and such to get numbers out or characters.
Bro just vote Tsunade if these kids want to gloss over the fact that she one tapped someone over twice as powerful as akuma then let them.I'm confused by this, are you saying we should ignore her scaling chain? Because saying she's just vaguely above 2.65 GT isn't accurate when she consistently one-shots characters that significantly upscale that value.
Yes, we don't have cutscenes or anything, but his Rakan works behind the idea that it is a "perfect block" that nullifies the opponent's hit.Then Tsunade isn't one tapping and will likely have to rely on hax? Another thing that actually gives Akuma the win here is his power null, he can nullify attacks so her punches will be useless here.
No, I'm saying we can't say that Tsunade oneshots Akuma just because she oneshots a 2.65 tons character.I'm confused by this, are you saying we should ignore her scaling chain? Because saying she's just vaguely above 2.65 GT isn't accurate when she consistently one-shots characters that significantly upscale that value.
I'm not glossing over anything and honestly you should try to be more respectful, no one has been rude so far, and at least not me.Bro just vote Tsunade if these kids want to gloss over the fact that she one tapped someone over twice as powerful as akuma then let them.
Well Akuma is more skilled than Tsunade in martial arts I assume right? So he should be able to use the ability effectively on her and nullify her attacks.Yes, we don't have cutscenes or anything, but his Rakan works behind the idea that it is a "perfect block" that nullifies the opponent's hit.
We don't have ways to determine the limit of this move, unfortunately.
It can be assumed to work with those comparable to him and to be effective because of Akuma's super skill, however we can't assume it nullifies every single hit, it depends on how skilled the opponent is to land hits and how Akuma replies with this technique.
Not really, that's how indexing on the wiki as worked since, like, forever.That basically makes scaling chains utterly pointless then, which makes no sense to me.
I can't tell that, my knowledge of Naruto is extremely limited.Well Akuma is more skilled than Tsunade in martial arts I assume right? So he should be able to use the ability effectively on her and nullify her attacks.
he can power null her punches.Akuma being a superior martial artist isn't really much of a win-condition given that Tsunade can consistently throw up high-damage attacks that he constantly has to manage, it seems more like a not-lose condition at that point. And it seems disingenuous to believe that he will just super-skill every single attack forever as a single mistake will basically be match-over. Even if Tsunade doesn't 1-shot she should do pretty severe damage and i don't see any immense pain-tolerace Akuma that's gonna keep him in the match after that.
Tsunade's not dumb. If she finds that her punches aren't effective, then she'll switch up her strategies. She can utilize thousands of Katsuyu clones which can spit corrosive acid, or alternatively, utilize her Medical Ninjutsu offensively to one-shot Akuma with her durability negating techniques like the chakra scalpel, instant death technique she was going to use on Orochimaru, or killing his cells by rapid over division.he can power null her punches.
She generally doesn't do her other abilities in fights though. Majority of her fights were just fist fights so I have trouble agreeing she's gonna last long enough to end up switching to another tactic, I mean hell she didn't even try Katsuyu on Madara and against Oro I believe she was nerfed and summoned Katsuyu to help. So no she won't last long enough to try another tactic. Akuma overwhelms her and beats her down till she can't regain while nulling her attacks.Tsunade's not dumb. If she finds that her punches aren't effective, then she'll switch up her strategies. She can utilize thousands of Katsuyu clones which can spit corrosive acid, or alternatively, utilize her Medical Ninjutsu offensively to one-shot Akuma with her durability negating techniques like the chakra scalpel, instant death technique she was going to use on Orochimaru, or killing his cells by rapid over division.
Which he has to do manually if i recall. If he fails once that's match-over.he can power null her punches.
Thats fine, considering he can sense people's power I don't see why he wouldn't opt to using something that can null their attacks if they're stronger than him.Which he has to do manually if i recall. If he fails once that's match-over.
It's part of his moveset, we can safely assume he's going to do that whenever he feels necessary and in a good way, giving how much effort he puts in constantly train and improving his techniques.But I don't know enough about Akuma to know how active he does it.
Tsunade has npiThe Rakan isn't the only way he has to evade attacks, his mobility and skill would work as well, and the Ashura Senku makes him intangible and can be used to both approach and evade the enemy.
She doesn't use them much, because she's never really needed to. Her raw strength was more than enough to deal with her opponents. Also you're ignoring the fact that all of these moves wouldn't have been very effective against Madara due to the Susano'o, since they require a physical body with muscles and cells to affect. Context is key.She generally doesn't do her other abilities in fights though. Majority of her fights were just fist fights so I have trouble agreeing she's gonna last long enough to end up switching to another tactic, I mean hell she didn't even try Katsuyu on Madara and against Oro I believe she was nerfed and summoned Katsuyu to help. So no she won't last long enough to try another tactic. Akuma overwhelms her and beats her down till she can't regain while nulling her attacks.
She can affect souls with her Medical Ninjutsu.I missed it, but how does that work? With what has she interacted?
Why would she need to use abilities here then? Madara has far more hax than Akuma yet she still continued with brute force. Only thing that's in her favor is stamina but Akuma has moves that can finish her off quicker. Actually the fact he was an edo should've been a reason for her to try using her abilities besides brute force but yet she continued. So no, Tsunade will keep punching and try to find ways to beat him with skill but her pulling out Katsuyu is definitely unlikely.She doesn't use them much, because she's never really needed to. Her raw strength was more than enough to deal with her opponents. Also you're ignoring the fact that all of these moves wouldn't have been very effective against Madara due to the Susano'o, since they require a physical body with muscles and cells to affect. Context is key.
Also, you're underestimating Tsunade's ridiculous stamina, endurance, Pain tolerance, and regeneration.
She can withstand hours of fighting against the likes of Madara, while suffering from constant impalement through vital organs, AND constantly healing 4 other teammates using her own chakra (which translates to stamina). She's not going down nearly as easily as you think.
Thanks.
I've read that Medical Ninjutsu can also be used offensively, but do all of its applications work on souls? And wold the affect intangible bodies, considering that Akuma isn't a lingering soul, but a physical person phasing through things.
Tsunade's stamina and pain resistance are superior to Akuma's, but I doubt the entire fight will drag on long enough to make such aspects become relevant (at least stamina, pain endurance always helps).
Just a note that Akuma's teleportation is a relic of the past when people couldn't decide what the Ashura Senku really wants, and because the fighting game community called it teleportation since the '90s for the sake of a facilitated communication.
I will add its removal to a future revision of assorted stuff, since it's pretty clear he moves around instead of teleporting.
I feel like I'm talking to a brick wall right now.....Why would she need to use abilities here then? Madara has far more hax than Akuma yet she still continued with brute force. Only thing that's in her favor is stamina but Akuma has moves that can finish her off quicker. Actually the fact he was an edo should've been a reason for her to try using her abilities besides brute force but yet she continued. So no, Tsunade will keep punching and try to find ways to beat him with skill but her pulling out Katsuyu is definitely unlikely.
The same technique can both be used offensively and for healing purposes. What differentiates them is Tsunade's "intent".I've read that Medical Ninjutsu can also be used offensively, but do all of its applications work on souls? And wold the affect intangible bodies, considering that Akuma isn't a lingering soul, but a physical person phasing through things.
Obito's not actually intangible though. He just teleports parts of his body to create the illusion of intangibility.intangibility would likely not be affected however, given that everything we know about Obito's intangibility would indicate so.
I understand where you're coming from but my problem is the fact that she won't just start off with other abilities, she will engage in h2h and she'll end up being overwhelmed by his barrage of attacks which stun her.The reason she'll use them against Akuma is that her punches will become nullified, so it's a bit of a stretch to say that someone with Tsunade's intelligence would keep using a strategy that isn't the least bit effective.
WTF seriously??Obito's not actually intangible though. He just teleports parts of his body to create the illusion of intangibility.
he does have intangibility on his page, this point makes sense so should be removed from his page but its not too importantObito's not actually intangible though. He just teleports parts of his body to create the illusion of intangibility.
No, just that and his running speed.is anything else outdated on his page?
As the power and he description of his focus move say.How does the status effect inducement work? Would Tsunade be stunned ?
There is, actually.Will that work here? Not sure. If there's an inherent difference between spiritual intangibility and whatever Akuma does, then I guess it won't really work.