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(GRACE) Kashimo VS Yuta (again) (15-11-0)

His aim wasn't exactly accurate when fighting Hakari, he's more likely to blast open his waist or blast off his arm.
Hakari dodged that because of the speed not because of Kashimo misfiring it. We literally see it was almost blasted off his head. Wiki treats Hakari dodging that as outlier for now. Yuta doesn't have any speed feats for that
I also never said he'd start with Fully-Manifested Rika, I said that he can use her and his Copy. Using Copy is just an instant win for Yuta, which is why it's important.
This is a last resort for Yuta. Kashimo doesn't gonna use CT so Yuta wouldn't fully manifest Rika until he runs out of his initial tank. Kashimo will have many opportunities to place charges on Yuta and blast his head or stomach off.
 
It is very explicitly stated that Ryu is stronger than Kashimo in the Culling Games, I don't know what's confused you.
No he has better OUTPUT. If output is 1:1 with A.P then Ryu>Sukuna since he has the highest ouput in history. Kashimo is portrayed as the strongest of the era and didn’t even think Ryu could satisfy his old man self.
 
Don't see Geto dying to Yuta

Weaker than Yuta lol

Off-guard and weakened Kenjaku

Despite that, Sukuna didn't have a massive stats difference. Nothing really big happened.
I was saying he was trying to kill them not that he did kill him, in all of those fights Yuta went for the kill.
 
Kashimo didnt go for Hakari’s head until after he figured out he had RCT, Kashimo first blew off Hakari’s arm.
No you should read the chapter again
We literally see Kashimo aiming for Hakari head but Hakari dodges it.
Yuta and Kashimo engage in CQC, Yuta gets his arm blown off, realises this dude is a ******* threat and summons full Rika (Yuta summoned full Rika after taking heavy damage from Ryu which was less severe then what Kashimo’s lightning would do).
Kashimo doesn't aim for hand he aims for head or stomach.
 
No he has better OUTPUT. If output is 1:1 with A.P then Ryu>Sukuna since he has the highest ouput in history. Kashimo is portrayed as the strongest of the era and didn’t even think Ryu could satisfy his old man self.
Apparantly, best in history was a mistranslation, it was best in the history of his clan/province. Output can't really mean anything other than AP, in said context. If it isn't attack power, what is it?

Hakari dodged that because of the speed not because of Kashimo misfiring it. We literally see it was almost blasted off his head. Wiki treats Hakari dodging that as outlier for now. Yuta doesn't have any speed feats for that
Either way, Kashimo failed to blow his head off, and Hakari is inferior to Yuta.
 
It is very explicitly stated that Ryu is stronger than Kashimo in the Culling Games, I don't know what's confused you. In fact Yuta can deflect Ryu's blasts with his bare hands at the cost of some fingers, the damage he should take from Charge should be minimal given ut'd have lower ouput than Ryu.
Definitely not. Unless you think Yuta is vastly more durable than Hakari, then Yuta's getting destroyed just like Hakari did.

Also that's output, the charges aren't just outputs, its the pos and neg meeting and causing a repulsion of both on a great scale as we see, its very much stronger than Yuta's durability.
 
No he has better OUTPUT. If output is 1:1 with A.P then Ryu>Sukuna since he has the highest ouput in history. Kashimo is portrayed as the strongest of the era and didn’t even think Ryu could satisfy his old man self.
Just so we’re clear, Sukuna says Ryu has more dura than Shinjuku Yuta and Shinjuku Yuji. Saying Kashimo has better stats than Ryu means he has better stats than them too.
 
Apparantly, best in history was a mistranslation, it was best in the history of his clan/province. Output can't really mean anything other than AP, in said context. If it isn't attack power, what is it?
was it an john werry mistranslation?
 
Apparantly, best in history was a mistranslation, it was best in the history of his clan/province. Output can't really mean anything other than AP, in said context. If it isn't attack power, what is it?
Output has been used for reinforcement, they are interchangeable from what I remember.
 
No you should read the chapter again
We literally see Kashimo aiming for Hakari head but Hakari dodges it.

Kashimo doesn't aim for hand he aims for head or stomach.
Hmm you are right but if Hakari could dodge it why wouldnt Yuta when they are generally presented as being comparable to each other?
 
Hmm you are right but if Hakari could dodge it why wouldnt Yuta when they are generally presented as being comparable to each other?
Because Yuta isn't on same level as JP Hakari speed?
Either way Hakari Dodging that is treated as outlier by wiki. It doesn't affect Kashimo aiming for the head and also it has Homing attack properties.
 
Apparantly, best in history was a mistranslation, it was best in the history of his clan/province. Output can't really mean anything other than AP, in said context. If it isn't attack power, what is it?
It’s related to attack power, not 1:1 with it. Reserves also factor into how hard you can hit
Either way, Kashimo failed to blow his head off, and Hakari is inferior to Yuta.
How is Hakari weaker?
Just so we’re clear, Sukuna says Ryu has more dura than Shinjuku Yuta and Shinjuku Yuji. Saying Kashimo has better stats than Ryu means he has better stats than them too.
He didn’t say that he said they were relative with Ryu. Reread the chapter. Also not relevant
 
He didn’t say that he said they were relative with Ryu. Reread the chapter. Also not relevant
Yeah, they’re not relative. They’re straight up weaker. It is relevant.
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How are you gaining "not relative" from this? They have been receiving several dismantles and cleaves from Sukuna the whole fight. They just don't surpass him, Sukuna never said "these guys are like butter compared to Ryu!!"
Yeah them surviving all of that is impressive. I was just bringing it up because the natural conclusion of “Kashimo > Ryu” would have him above those two as well.
 
Definitely not. Unless you think Yuta is vastly more durable than Hakari, then Yuta's getting destroyed just like Hakari did.
Yuta deflects Charge with his bare hands I'm ngl, Garnité Blast > Charge. Because Kashimo is stated to be weaker than Ryu, as Kashimo is a Culling Games player.
 
Yeah them surviving all of that is impressive. I was just bringing it up because the natural conclusion of “Kashimo > Ryu” would have him above those two as well.
I mean yeah, he should be. The guy's on a different level than them if we're being serious.
 
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