Gotta Revise 'Em All, Part 2: Getting to work

[koopa3144]

I'ma note that I'll probably work on a game canon profile for Mewtwo or Necrozma next after I'm done with the Riolu's lines game canon profile.

 

[That_moron2]

Bump

 

[y3p_owo]

Merry Bump-mas

 

[y3p_owo]

Bump

 

[y3p_owo]

Gotta bump them all! (Gotta bump them all!) Bumpémon!

 

[Hypertornado099]

Any progress?

 

[y3p_owo]

Any progress?

I think Island level stuff has been accepted and koopa3144 is making the sandboxs for Game Mewtwo and Necrozma. I think at this point we're mostly just trying to figure out where the Legendaries scale, specifically the non-boxart ones like the Bird Trio. (I've also brought up the possibility of Mewtwo, and Mew by extension, scaling to the god tiers of the verse, but no one really talked about it.)

 

[Hypertornado099]

Is anyone else gonna work on something else that's specific? I think what you guys can do is figure out what abilities each move should count for and make a CRT focused on that

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

I'm not sure about agreeing with Jirachi's High 6-A rating, would that make Archie High 6-A too?

 

[y3p_owo]

I'm not sure about agreeing with Jirachi's High 6-A rating, would that make Archie High 6-A too?

1. That's the manga, so it's possible that version of Jirachi might not even get High 6-A.
2. I'm not sure, though I'm kinda leaning towards no imo. But if we do allow him to scale to Jirachi, I think it'll only be with the armor.

 

[Lou_change]

Jirachi weighs 1.1 kilograms and Guile Hideout straight up fights the Pokedex holders' Pokemon

 

[Emerald]

I'm not sure about agreeing with Jirachi's High 6-A rating, would that make Archie High 6-A too?

That's PokeSpe only. And also there's no basis that Jirachi's Doom Desire scales to its durability

1. That's the manga, so it's possible that version of Jirachi might not even get High 6-A.
2. I'm not sure, though I'm kinda leaning towards no imo. But if we do allow him to scale to Jirachi, I think it'll only be with the armor.

1. High 6-A comes from Doom Desire's move description, it might be applicable in the manga
2. It wouldn't be weird, considering in this same arc we have some Pokémon fighting Regis who can match the Weather Duo

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

And also there's no basis that Jirachi's Doom Desire scales to its durability

Or physical strength for that matter

 

[Hypertornado099]

That's PokeSpe only. And also there's no basis that Jirachi's Doom Desire scales to its durability

1. High 6-A comes from Doom Desire's move description, it might be applicable in the manga
2. It wouldn't be weird, considering in this same arc we have some Pokémon fighting Regis who can match the Weather Duo

Which part of the move description is high 6-A?

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

But if we do allow him to scale to Jirachi, I think it'll only be with the armor.

Although, nothing exactly suggests that the armor gives any boosts in strength

 

[CloverDragon03]

Archie only threw Jirachi. This is Lifting Strength, not AP

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Archie only threw Jirachi. This is Lifting Strength, not AP

Jirachi got knocked out, lad definitely scales in AP

 

[CloverDragon03]

It got knocked out, lad definitely scales in AP

Archie states it’s “not well-suited for battles.” Doesn’t sound like High 6-A to me

 

[Eden_Warlock99]

Archie states it’s “not well-suited for battles.” Doesn’t sound like High 6-A to me

Unknown Tier Jirachi is fine

 

[CloverDragon03]

Maybe something like “Unknown, High 6-A with Doom Desire” for manga Jirachi?

 

[Omegabronic]

Maybe something like “Unknown, High 6-A with Doom Desire” for manga Jirachi?

does game jirachi have anything scaling to high 6-A physicals?

 

[CloverDragon03]

does game jirachi have anything scaling to high 6-A physicals?

The statements and such that nuke Jirachi’s physicals from scaling only exist in the manga. It’d be presumptuous to apply it to game scaling

 

[Emerald]

I have to reread the Emerald arc, although I do remember Krys' Cubone harming Jirachi and this cubone somewhat scales to Regis.

 

[Emerald]

Which part of the move description is high 6-A?

It comes from this, and Jirachi summoning sunlight (very sus)

 

[Lou_change]

Again Archie/Guile Hideout physically fights against the Pokédex holders’ Pokemon who are implied comparable to each other at the end of in the arc. He also just assumed it wouldn’t be useful.

 

[Hypertornado099]

It comes from this, and Jirachi summoning sunlight (very sus)

Least wanked Lina Shields calc

 

[Emerald]

Again Archie/Guile Hideout physically fights against the Pokédex holders’ Pokemon who are implied comparable to each other at the end of in the arc. He also just assumed it wouldn’t be useful.

Could also be talking about how Jirachi isn't that strong with other moves, cause with Doom Desire they could pierce through Red's Poliwrath chest with ease

 

[Lou_change]

The only other move shown is wish so I guess that works.

 

[Ghengiroo115]

I have a couple questions:

1. Since Farigiraf’s 10x Girafarig statement is being used to back-scale mid-stages to High 7-A, can the same be done for first stages using Metang’s 2x Beldum Pokédex statements? Specifically its Sun and Sword entries.

2. If half Metang for first stages is accepted, would that make all Megas an >10x multipliers due to Mega Metagross being Metagross + Metang + Beldum + Beldum (in other words Metagross + Metagross)? Since Metagross is a more potent fusion than Metang, Mega Metagross should logically be at least as potent a fusion as Metagross.

 

[y3p_owo]

I have a couple questions:

1. Since Farigiraf’s 10x Girafarig statement is being used to back-scale mid-stages to High 7-A, can the same be done for first stages using Metang’s 2x Beldum Pokédex statements? Specifically its Sun and Sword entries.

2. If half Metang for first stages is accepted, would that make all Megas an >10x multipliers due to Mega Metagross being Metagross + Metang + Beldum + Beldum (in other words Metagross + Metagross)? Since Metagross is a more potent fusion than Metang, Mega Metagross should logically be at least as potent a fusion as Metagross.

Maybe? (I'm not that good with multipliers and how this site handles them.)

 

[SlendVeny]

We need a canon crossover between the manga, games, and anime to come out right when these revisions end.

 

[y3p_owo]

I mean we technically got one for the games and anime via Masters.

 

[ZespeonGalaxy]

Longest going crt?

 

[y3p_owo]

Bump number... idfk at this point...

Anyways, you guys mind if I make a CRT for Rayquaza that's separate from this thread? I'm asking because I kinda want to remove the Zygarde scaling from their profile. (The reasoning for it is kinda ass even with if we continue to allow all Pokémon profiles to be composited)

 

[koopa3144]

Bump number... idfk at this point...

Anyways, you guys mind if I make a CRT for Rayquaza that's separate from this thread? I'm asking because I kinda want to remove the Zygarde scaling from their profile. (The reasoning for it is kinda ass even with if we continue to allow all Pokémon profiles to be composited)

Yeah, it would be best to make a quick separate crt for that,

 

[Lord_Farquaad69420]

Bump number... idfk at this point...

Anyways, you guys mind if I make a CRT for Rayquaza that's separate from this thread? I'm asking because I kinda want to remove the Zygarde scaling from their profile. (The reasoning for it is kinda ass even with if we continue to allow all Pokémon profiles to be composited)

i don't mind

 

[Omegabronic]

you guys should just make a new thread to organize what needs to be done.......no staff will want to join in with 53 pages

 

[Hagane_no_Saiyajin]

This thread in a nutshell:

 

[y3p_owo]

Bump?

 

[Spinoirr]

"Getting to work" my ass