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I am talking about how if goku supresses his ki shisui won't use genjutsu immediately, and because shisui is fodder goku would just knock him out.
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Yes, that is what this means. We don't assume abilities or resistances.just because we don’t have any feats of him doing it, doesn’t mean he can’t do it.
Except he doesn't.If he as any good enough feats that are enough to deal with this type of stuff, we can use that to determine something.
None of this proves anything at all. All you're saying is "Good willpower = Illusion resistance ". Actually showcase feats and statements that back this up or don't use it.Goku’s supernatural willpower is comparable to Vegeta; who is capable of resisting mind control with sheer determination (of course I’m not saying he could resist mind manipulation on the level that Naruto characters do it, I’m just saying it as a basis for his supernatural willpower). Goku is also able to keep fighting opponents for a lengthy period of time, even when his body is severely damaged. This immense willpower would be enough to handle illusions on Shisui’s level
Goku is comparable to Vegeta who can resist mind control early on in the Buu Sagawhy having good stamina/durability change something in Mind Resistances? Also, Genjutsus aren't only Illusions
so it’s out of character to resist illusions/mind manipulation?it means that it is out of character and goku never will do it here
Goku is literally far superior to Buu Saga Vegeta who can resist mind manipulation with sheer willpowerYes, that is what this means. We don't assume abilities or resistances.
Except he doesn't.
None of this proves anything at all. All you're saying is "Good willpower = Illusion resistance ". Actually showcase feats and statements that back this up or don't use it.
Goku is not Vegeta, and Babidi controlled like, 6 people?Goku is comparable to Vegeta who can resist mind control early on in the Buu Saga
I thought you were arguing about goku insta knocking Shisui after sensing the dangerso it’s out of character to resist illusions/mind manipulation?
Which is garbage compared to that of the Sharingan. Your point? We don't arbitrarily assume it to somehow be on the same level.Goku is literally far superior to Buu Saga Vegeta who can resist mind manipulation with sheer willpower
He has actually. OG Dragon ball when he used his "Mind eye" and in Super when he practically negged all the illusions with his "Mind eye" once again.Could we stop with these assumptions? If he doesn't have feats of this, he cannot do it.
Except he always is we saw this against the robbers in Super even back in Z while in Super saiyan even the Tarble mini Movie he lowered his PL to 500 I believe.Why would Goku erase his Presence to fodder level for no reason?, he would need to know that Shisui was trying cast Genjutsu on him, your entire argument relies on Goku having Knowledge he wouldn't otherwise have, in contrast seeing energy is one of the passive default abilities that come with a Sharingan.
Planetary TP isn't garbage dude the Only Planetary TP or (Gengutsu) in Naruto was the Infinite Tsukuyomi.Which is garbage compared to that of the Sharingan. Your point? We don't arbitrarily assume it to somehow be on the same level.
Who in Z has planetary mind-hax?Planetary TP isn't garbage dude the Only Planetary TP or (Gengutsu) in Naruto was the Infinite Tsukuyomi.
BabidiWho in Z has planetary mind-hax?
why is it planetary?Babidi
Tarble movie is canon?Except he always is we saw this against the robbers in Super even back in Z while in Super saiyan even the Tarble mini Movie he lowered his PL to 500 I believe.
Babidi could control a multitude of people who all were in different parts of the entire worldwhy is it planetary?
Even so, he does it in superTarble movie is canon?
That's not planetary potency, that's range.Babidi could control a multitude of people who all were in different parts of the entire world
When has he used that....Shisui can also use regular sharingan genjutsu too not just kotoamatsukami.
Pretty sure he was saving to use it against his clan to stop the coup d'etat, Shisui is still affected by a cooldown iirc.Shisui doesn’t use koto off the bat.... he even was pushed to a near death state against Danzo and got one of his eyes stolen and still didn’t use it. Good lord Goku breathes and turns Shisui into paste.
It hasn't been added?why the hell was this added
its not even finished
look on shiui profileIt hasn't been added?
No proof of your claimsPretty sure he was saving to use it against his clan to stop the coup d'etat, Shisui is still affected by a cooldown iirc.
Regardless, the manga never shows the fight, and in the anime, I'm fairly sure Danzo used Izanagi to escape the Genjutsu.
Weird, they added it to Shisui's but not Goku's.its not even finished
look on shiui profile
The person got reported check the rule violationsWeird, they added it to Shisui's but not Goku's.
The person who added it might just be a troll tbh
It's pretty logical, their entire plan was to use Koto on his clan, why would he use it on Danzo and completely ruin that plan?No proof of your claims
Anime isn’t canon
Itachi is actually genjustu ggif Shisui cannot be used, change it to Itachi
This makes no sense, why would have have two eyes that do the same individual ability but one has a longer cooldown? Never stated either iirc.Iirc he has two eyes to use it one has a longer cool down then the other. If we are going by canon it’s still not in character for him to use it right off the bat.
if Shisui cannot be used, change it to Itachi
No it’s not.... name an instance when he used genjustu right off the bat... like I said he’s a speed based fighterIf it's not in character for him to use Koto, I'm pretty sure regular genjutsu is, which fodderizes Goku all the same.
Ey nah, the matches shouldnt have rules that are made specially to give advantage to others characterschange the rules if you want Shisui to win