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Goku VS He-Man

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Actually, I am wrong. Paulo is right.

I guess I missed that episode/crt.

Jiren does have precog, I was thinking of Hit for some reason.
 
Eh that's quite low level precog(come on even Haki have better precog than that) and it only being used against a casual god of destruction but alright.
 
"He-man can **** over the Universe with a Slash of his Sword"

...SSG Goku's regular PUNCHES with Beerus nearly destroyed the Universe. Toppo's HAKAI Warped the Void (Which is the Size of the Universe), and all that.

All this "Universe slashing" shit seems to be a downplay to someone such as Son Goku.
 
He used to be 2-B, but he was downgraded recently. I'm not sure why because I don't know in which thread this was decided.
 
A Thought is pretty casual as casual as you can get, but isn't the scaling huge for Goku?
 
Yeah. And, to be fair now, I think Goku at this rate could destroy the Universe with a mere Blast if he actually wanted the Universe gone. Though, we all know that wouldn't happen.
 
I still think He-Man should be 2-B/2-A, but I'll make another thread about it on another occasion. For now, he can just erase the whole cosmos within a single thought, but for him to actually do that in-character is just me explaining how casually Low 2-C he is and how far above baseline he is compared to Goku or Jiren. He just oneshots.
 
Jiren is casually stronger than IZ, also Goku is resistant to existance erasure.
 
How willing is He-Man going to reality warp, and possess??? And can he do it before Goku can overpower him???
 
Goku has never resisted tier 2 erasure. Gods of Destruction don't have tier 2 erasure. And He-Man doesn't perform Reality Warping, Erasure, or Possession in character. My argument is that he would simply oneshot Goku.
 
The gods are tier 2, and Goku has resisted their Hakai. Goku again, is able to keep up with a serious Jiren, who is casually stronger than baseline.
 
Gods of Destruction are tier 2, but their Existence Erasure isn't. And He-Man scales from a feat that is far more casually above baseline Universe+ than Jiren.
 
I fail to see how someone who can beat baseline with a thought is somehow superior to someone that can do the same thing by barely moving, as well as having a much stronger form.
 
Jiren didn't do that by barely moving. Jiren performed a feat that was High Universal by barely moving, which is completely irrelevant to Goku's Low 2-C power.
 
No, he was casually powering up, and a lot of people stated that he's superior to IZ.
 
I agree that he's casually above Zamasu, but Zamasu was like baseline Low 2-C with his full power when becoming one with the Universe and overriding its law. Jiren is not anywhere near destroy-the-cosmos-with-a-single-thought level of casual Low 2-C.
 
@Hadou how does that make any sense, you agree with Jiren being stronger than Zamasu, but now you don't???
 
Yobobojojo said:
But the feat from powering up is high 3-a, which doesn't atter here.
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You're forgetting the part where the kaioshin and gods stated that Jiren is far stronger than anything they've ever seen.
 
I'm not saying he isn't Low 2-C. I' saying the idea that he is Low 2-C just by powering up is false.
 
Yes it is, because others were able to say that he's stronger than anything else when he casually released his power, which includes IZ.
 
Vote Count:

Goku: 4

He-Man: 7

Grace period started 7 hours ago so about 18 hours left.

@Glass are you voting or not?
 
Also, I think some of you are downplaying Goku's attacking abilities. In his Mastered Ultra Instinct state, although there are no new notable abilities per se, his attack is a lot better and more powerful than before, so he wont be on the defense the entire match. I'm sure Goku can land a finishing blow to He-Man before He-Man finishes him.
 
Is he man willing to universe bust? Since he can kill Goku with a thought. If not then maybe Goku could hang in there for a bit and improve via UI. Remember, Goku is a combat genius and in UI he will try to kill He man, since it's his all or nothing form, sort of. Oh and he mans sword would probs one shot Goku.

Idk, retract my vote for the time being. I need to think more lol
 
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