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For normal goku yeah, not for MUI who dodges and attacks atomically.
So even DE might not land.
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So even DE might not land.
Oliver_de_jesus
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also could Gojo use Unlimited Void if he can't even sense Goku's level/Danger? Remember Godki makes Goku's presence undetectable
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But Goku's UI stops working when he's knocked unconscious? Don't see him functioning when his brain is literally destroyed and his body is paralyzed from info filling his soul..
And he can be knocked out of Ultra Instinct from being hit hard enough alone...
He's def not going to be using Ultra Instinct when he's literally dead if a mere punch and vital organ strike can knock him out of UI...
I do agree with Godku winning tho. Unlimited Void just merks him tho
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Even Goku with type 2 super immortality would be cool, although I'm aware that full superior instinct You wouldn't need a brain to attack your opponents, although Goku's has imperfections, lol
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Faulty Goku's superior instinct, lolBut Goku's UI stops working when he's knocked unconscious? Don't see him functioning when his brain is literally destroyed and his body is paralyzed from info filling his soul..
And he can be knocked out of Ultra Instinct from being hit hard enough alone...
He's def not going to be using Ultra Instinct when he's literally dead if a mere punch and vital organ strike can knock him out of UI...
I do agree with Godku winning tho. Unlimited Void just merks him tho
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He'll get to Whis' level some day...
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Hehehe, it wouldn't be a bad idea to let Goku use his full superior instinct without wear and tear
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That's a good point, since people like toji and maki aren't detectable, could be the same for goku because of god ki.
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Fr, it would basically render goku as an inanimate object, goku proceeds to break out and one shot gojo.
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Oof
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UV can attack the soul so it would probably affect goku, I remember jogo mentioned that gojo's domain could kill all curses which would include mahito and also megumi's soul was affected by that technique (idk if gojo's profile has soul manipulation so I could be wrong here).
However goku has better chances.
However goku has better chances.
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It's not about what the specific power affects and doesn't affect, it's about the "Unlimited Void" ability not taking effect at all in the first place due to Goku potentially being undetectable
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Aren't people like Toji and Maki still affected by Domains if they want to? I'm 99% certain that Domains still detect them, but due to their special conditions, they can choose to not be affected. Toji was almost cut to pieces by a Domain until he went "no" and chopped it to pieces right before it killed him when fighting Geto.
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From what I remember, Goku didn't have resistance to soul destruction because he resisted hakai? Would it still affect it even with that?
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Serlock_Holmes
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I'm not too knowledgeable about jjk to answer that, if goku is undetectable then goku destroys the planet and win.
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Probably, Maki was also entered into Sumo guys domain too after agreeing iirc
But I don't know how that would specifically work here with regards to Unlimited Void and Goku tbh
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yes thats why gokuism takes the w
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Cutting through localized space doesn't do much against infinity, it's more so spatial manipulation + range. Sukuna didn't overpower Infinity with just space manipulation alone, he had to extend the range to the world itself. I.E the very fabric of the universe and I don't think the dimensional manipulation of DB characters is enough.
They only destroy relatively small pocket dimensions, not space over an essential infinite distance.
They only destroy relatively small pocket dimensions, not space over an essential infinite distance.
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It should have no problem reading him. You don't need to be able to "read" the opponents energy. Substantiated by Maki and Toji being affected unless they decline despite lacking any esoteric energy. Simply existing inside would be enough to be affected by a Domain Expansion. Unless you're a special case like Maki and Toji who pretty much just have a resistance essentially to Domains.
Goku could break out of the Domain if he tried. But he wouldn't have enough time to in speed equal most likely. Nor would he really know to? Also, does OP say energy is equalized? If not, Goku shouldn't even be able to see or interact with Cursed Energy most likely. And a single hit would make him susceptible to being cursed which when simplified is "magic poison" that's lethal very quickly.
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Goku isn't really Frieza my guy.
Blowing up the planet is quite literally the last thing he would do intentionally
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I'm sure of this too, Goku with his innocence would only play with Kakashi cosplay, lol
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Yes it does, why wouldn't it? Breaking the fabric of space is what sukuna did, even buu saga characters can do that, now goku has 2-C range and spacetime manip.
which goku has
Which is literallyt what DB characters do?? You are contradicting yourself
They have shown 2-C range and dimensional manip.
Doesn't need to be over an infinite distance, distance doesn't matter when you break the fabric of space itself
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They have that resistance because of having no cursed energy and being able to be unrecognizable, the only difference is that goku probably wouldn't be able to choose, but would just be naturally resistant.
Yes energy is equalized, and goku simply powering up or a simple explosion from a ki blast would be enough.
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energy shouldn't be equalized
both are very different stuff
both are very different stuff
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which is why it's equalized..
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Ik, I was kidding xd
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Maki was stated to have a resistance to the sure hit because she had no cursed energy and couldn't be detected though, and we know from Sukuna that Unlimited Void is a a sure hit ability that takes place inside Gojo's Limitless, rather than an environmental effect. There's no proof it can function like Sukuna's DE, where dismantle means it can affect inanimate objects. Even then, for all we know maybe Toji (and Maki? I forgot if she was holding one lol) could only be targetted due to there cursed tools afterwards anyways. We don't know enough to make a definitive claim, but we do have a statement that no cursed energy = no sure hit. You can't give infinite information to an object lol
Isn't energy equalized by default?
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Incorrect, Sukuna targeted much more than space. He targeted space, existence and the world itself. Goku's range to my knowledge doesn't scale to 2-C given that even Gogeta and Broly clashing only busted smaller dimensions.
Goku doesn't have infinite range.
First of all, calm down with your hostile tone there Robin. Secondly, learn the definition of contradiction because nothing I said was contradictory. Does Goku have infinite range? Were Gogeta and Broly busting dimensions infinite in size? No.
Doesn't mean the dimensional manipulation has that range.
You absolutely need to have infinite range to destroy an infinite amount of space.
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Verse equalization rules say yes unless OP says otherwise, according to SBA.
But JJK and DB 'energy' are fundamentally two different things in how they work as far as mechanics go.
Serlock_Holmes
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Gojo only theoretically creates space not really. The amount of space that's needs to be broken is still the actual one not the theoretical one of Gojo so it's the distance between them. Also Goku even as a God can destroy universal size spaces that's why they have the rating they have.
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What are you talking about? Goku scales to the macrocosm which is a 2-C structure, so yes it does. Busting space itself is literally equivalent to busting existence, busting a small pocket dimension is not all that goku has been shown to do. Also the DOSSL probably scales higher because it need gogeta and broly to get into it.
2-C range and spacetime manip which is better, again, you do not need infinite range.
I'm not being hostile, you did contradict yourself, you are saying that sukuna cut the world, space, existence, and goku did the same shit, yet you think it can't get by it, so is breaking space not the same as cutting space to you?
No I don't, 2-C range is enough.
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Mmm, that seems fair. I haven't read up to that chapter yet, so I'll take ya'll word for it. From the scan I saw tho, it didn't say Domains can't affect inanimate object. Just that they need permission to put them inside one.
As for energy being equalized by default, that's only if the two systems are similar enough. JJK and Dragon Ball's energy system is very different methinks.
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I love how that's the same argument in the Reinhard vs Gojo thread, and Reinhard still won that, since the argument about infinity din't convice people.
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This argument that someone has to cut through infinite space to get through infinity makes no sense when a character has spacetime manip, that is like saying that you have to traverse a universe to break through its spacetime fabric. You don't need that at all, your attacks need to just have simply spatial manip, interdimensional range, High 3-A range, or anything above that, which goku has since he is 2-C. So he can casually break through it with any attack, while tanking every ability gojo has including domain expansion.
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