Goku soul destruction resistance

[Ryuga21]

Sincerely, Goku has resisted hakai, and hakai is capable of destroying souls.
So why does Goku have no resistance against this in his profile?

That would also scale to Vegeta, Freeza, and everyone who has resisted Hakai.

 

[Setsuna_tenma]

the hakai is just existance erasure so it would jsut mean resistance to existance erasure.Erasing souls is just basic for existance erasure

 

[Ryuga21]

But Hakai goes beyond being simply this, for from what has been shown it can affect the soul, and if you resist directly being erased by something that has been explicitly shown to destroy souls, you have resistance against both.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

having resistance to EE means he resists soul destruction

 

[ABoogieYesSir]

Yeah^^^

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

having resistance to EE means he resists soul Destruction

I don't believe that's how that works. EE vs Mind, Matter and Soul Erasure/Destruction is odd. I am not 100% sure on how resistances interact with this.

 

[Schnee_One]

Ironically I have a revision planned for many types of EE erasing only the Body....

 

[Reppuzan]

I don't think it works that way either.

For instance, we don't automatically give resistance to Empathic Manipulation for resisting Mind Manipulation.

 

[Ryuga21]

having resistance to EE means he resists soul Destruction

I do not think so, because if this were so we could apply resistance against destruction of mind and matter as well. I think the EE needs to show if it can erase in more than one plane, as is the case with Hakai.

 

[Dragomer]

EE doesn't automaticaly mean it involve souls (lots of vers don't even have those) but in this case, Sidra precisely said that they won't even be in the after life anymore, which require for their soul to get destroyed

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Hakai erases body,soul, and idk about mind but that part doesn't matter. If Goku resists the destruction of his soul and body simultaneously, why would he not be able to resist just the destruction of his soul?

 

[Ryuga21]

But if he resisted the Hakai that destroys the soul and the body he should be able to withstand other blows that destroy only the soul, so I think it fair to apply that resistance on his profile

 

[Read_this_post]

I think anybody stronger than the user can overpower it anyway.

 

[Kaltias]

.*Flashbacks of Thresh vs Goku*

Anyway, no. Erasure that destroys your soul is just that. Erasure.

It's different from someone punching or absorbing your soul, which is what soul manipulation is

 

[Ryuga21]

Destruction of the Soul or Erase is also Soul Manipulation, of course in a limited way, but still is. Just as punching souls is also.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

This isn't resistance to soul manip for goku, just for soul destruction.

 

[Kaltias]

He is resistant to soul destruction done via void manipulation.

That's literally resistance to EE. There is no point in calling it resistance to soul manipulation if he resists a soul erasure and that's it.

I explained this here

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

I think anybody stronger than the user can overpower it anyway.

Yes, Hakai doesn't work on stronger beings.

Anyways what Kaltias said is right. Existence erasure is general, soul manipulatation is specific to the soul.

 

[Ryuga21]

Yes, I understand, Goku has resistance against Soul Destruction, but that does not mean he would endure an absorption of it.

The point is that Soul Destruction is a limited variation of Soul Manip ... Anyway, ignore what I said before. Is it fair to apply this resistance on the profile?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

There's a difference though. That guy is claiming Goku can resist soul absorption, not soul destruction. EE = Body destruction + Soul Destruction. If Goku can resist the sum then he can resist one part of it. I'm pretty sure there are other characters with resistance to soul destruction specifically on this wiki.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

Yes, I understand, Goku has resistance against Soul Destruction, but that does not mean he would endure an absorption of it.

The point is that Soul Destruction is a limited variation of Soul Manip ... Anyway, ignore what I said before. Is it fair to apply this resistance on the profile?

I can erase a pencil drawing on a paper. Does that mean I can make the drawing move?

 

[DragonEmperor23]

All that needs to be added is that Goku resists Soul Destruction.

 

[ShadowWarrior1999]

All that needs to be added is that Goku resists Soul Destruction.

Unnecessary when he already has resistance to EE.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

True.