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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

That's half the reason. Other half was the Spear played a big part in overwhelming Heimdall's senses (Though very temporarily, as Heimdall recovered quickly as always), but by the time Heimdall had his arm pinned by a spear, he was eventually completely locked out of Kratos's head, rendering the precognition and telepathy useless.
How did the spear help?
 
Overloading Heimdall's senses with the Spear's explosive capabilities was the first part. Kratos outgrowing his precog and mind-reading with his own blows was the second part. Kratos blocking out Heimdall out of his head completely was the final nail in the coffin. This isn't the first time Kratos has dealt with stuff that can reveal his weaknesses or peer into his mind either, just that Heimdall was a bit better in those cases this time around.
 
Overloading Heimdall's senses with the Spear's explosive capabilities was the first part. Kratos outgrowing his precog and mind-reading with his own blows was the second part. Kratos blocking out Heimdall out of his head completely was the final nail in the coffin. This isn't the first time Kratos has dealt with stuff that can reveal his weaknesses or peer into his mind either, just that Heimdall was a bit better in those cases this time around.
How did the spears overload the senses and how did Kratos block his head?
 
Make no mistake, Heimdall isn't dumb. He's more than a capable warrior who can instantly read intents without having to do anything, he is always cautious of everyone around him and has considerable battle experience because of it, he is the last guy you'd be expecting to underestimate you in the heat of battle. This does however, come with a massive ego problem of him wanting everyone to be kissing his boot every time they lose to him, which backfires completely when he faces someone far above his weight class with the tools to neg him.
Nah, Heimdall is still dumb because we hate him :v
 
Hard to imagine Freya as Kratos' true equal when she wouldn't have been able to beat Heimdall. She and Mimir seemed to have no idea how to beat him prior to meeting him.

And when she did, she literally couldn't touch him with her arrows. Like, he was gonna kill her and Freyr if not for Kratos killing him first.

Nidhogg was batting her around almost like an afterthought while its main attention was on Kratos for the duration of that fight.

Then there were those spirits that proclaimed Thor as the strongest of Gods and we know a focused but holding back Kratos can take him.

Freya was also mighty impressed about Faye merely fighting Thor even though he was so drunk as to be stated as sloppy and basically uncoordinated by the same spirits, and we know he barely even recollects the fight at all, so he was hyper hyper drunk.

She also only restrained Odin for a bit because she got the jump on him while his attention was on kratos and atreus.

I don't think she would have stood much of a chance against Thor in a 1 on 1.
 
Also, Heimdall's body doesn't work as fast as his mind, so his dodging can only keep up with his precognition so much.
 
Hard to imagine Freya as Kratos' true equal when she wouldn't have been able to beat Heimdall. She and Mimir seemed to have no idea how to beat him prior to meeting him.
That's because of his precognition and telepathy. Like, Mimir didn't think Kratos was capable of killing him either despite knowing he's slain a pantheon and fought Thor at that point.

Like, it's hammered in repeatedly that they can't do anything if he sees it coming and that even Kratos needed the weapon for it doesn't make it that Heimdall > Freya or whatever.
And when she did, she literally couldn't touch him with her arrows. Like, he was gonna kill her and Freyr if not for Kratos killing him first.
...Because of the above again.
Nidhogg was batting her around almost like an afterthought while its main attention was on Kratos for the duration of that fight.
It also had Kratos on the ropes with a jaw bite and threw him off multiple times, what is you point here? Not to mention that the moment she was free she knocked Nidhogg over and dragged him down with her sword.
Then there were those spirits that proclaimed Thor as the strongest of Gods and we know a focused but holding back Kratos can take him.
....What would this change, again? They're not exactly the most knowledgeable on the gods and as far as the wider public knew, Thor was the strongest.
Freya was also mighty impressed about Faye merely fighting Thor even though he was so drunk as to be stated as sloppy and basically uncoordinated by the same spirits, and we know he barely even recollects the fight at all, so he was hyper hyper drunk.
....And? She's impressed that someone fought Thor, one of the most powerful Aesir. Being impressed by someone else's performance doesn't mean that you're far below it.
She also only restrained Odin for a bit because she got the jump on him while his attention was on kratos and atreus.
Maybe but it doesn't change much.
I don't think she would have stood much of a chance against Thor in a 1 on 1.
Your opinion is noted.
 
Yeah, it's already on the profile, just nobody linked it yet.

It's also funny how Odin literally one-shots Thor with a spear staff wound. The same staff wound that doesn't do jackshit to Kratos.
Tbf Thor wasn't defending himself, even though I still think Odin >> Thor.
 
Yeah Draupnir could definitely use a profile. There's actually plenty of weapons that could use a profile, like The Claws of Hades, Blade of Artemis, Barbarian Hammer, Leviathan axe, Mjolnir, and Gauntlet of Zeus, and plenty more I'm sure.
 
Do you guys think that a possible Egypt installment will be able to have Kratos finally rise over his past self (since the Egyptian gods seem to be a lot more powerful)
 
I mean he is already 2C, so what's the point of discussion in that? He is performed High3A/2C casually by existing. He would try his best to survive against Kratos, so you can guess how powerful his light is.
 
When Helios said feel the power of the sun, did he actually hit kratos with the full heat of the sun or was that hyperbole
Way more actually. Remember that he casually did a High 3-A feat while crumpled inside Atlas's hand, having his power be constantly siphoned off of him by Atlas, and then him punching the Sun God into the World Pillar.

Here, only his legs are broken, but there's nothing stopping his power from burning Kratos to a crisp.
 
Way more actually. Remember that he casually did a High 3-A feat while crumpled inside Atlas's hand, having his power be constantly siphoned off of him by Atlas, and then him punching the Sun God into the World Pillar.

Here, only his legs are broken, but there's nothing stopping his power from burning Kratos to a crisp.
Fortunately our hero proved resistant to heat for a bit just enough for him to stop Helios from using it again
 
That heat is also explosive and blunt-force like in nature. In the wrong hands it'd obliterate the entire Mortal Realm. Or worse. cough World Pillar cough
You know what else this Helios thing reminds me of (now that I saw a comment of it)

🇯🇵: attacks the 🇺🇸

🇺🇸: FEEL THE POWER OF THE SUN

(you can guess what the sun is here)
 
You know what else this Helios thing reminds me of (now that I saw a comment of it)

🇯🇵: attacks the 🇺🇸

🇺🇸: FEEL THE POWER OF THE SUN

(you can guess what the sun is here)
Well Kratos is Mediterranean Greek but he was voiced by Terrence C. Carson who is American so uh...

and Helios's VA is Itachi's English voice (Helios's body model too), so you're not wrong there LOL
 
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