God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

[Hellbeast]

I’m thinking November
We know it’s not been pushed back and we’re getting a lot of teases recently so I think we’re going to see marketing kickoff

 

[Lilixa]

they really need show some trailer, just for build some hype.

Maybe trailer about Kratos destroying infinite higher dimensional stuff would do a trick.

 

[Stefano4444]

Maybe trailer about Kratos destroying infinite higher dimensional stuff would do a trick.

Maybe show Kratos and Thor destroying portions of the Yggdrasil in their clash or during the Ragnarok.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

How do you think / hope GoW Ragnarok ends?

 

[Hellbeast]

I'm thinking, against all efforts, Ragnarok occurs and it absolutely wipes out the realms. Atreus is resentful of Kratos for his actions wiping out his home (either with validity or not) and the two separate with Kratos trying to find his son in an attempt at reconciliation, who he tracked to Egypt

 

[Lilixa]

How do you think / hope GoW Ragnarok ends?

for me, i would say after ragnarok happened, athena and other higher existence gods appear and say "you have done well fulfilling your destiny". After that maybe kratos wander to other myth.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

for me, i would say after ragnarok happened, athena and other higher existence gods appear and say "you have done well fulfilling your destiny". After that maybe kratos wander to other myth.

But that leave on what happened to Atreus next
Honestly i have no idea on how GoW: Ragnarok gonna end so i'm just going to wait until the game released

 

[Stefano4444]

How do you think / hope GoW Ragnarok ends?

Personally i can see Athena as the final antagonist of the game, with Thor and Odin as the main antagonists for most of the story.

She could try to exploit the imminent Ragnarok to become the all mighty goddness like she wanted back in Greece, other to get revenge on Kratos.

She may ended up as the final boss of the game, after maybe getting a power boost which would turn her into a serious threat.

Aside for that, Kratos may ended up sacrifice himself to save Atreus, like it was predicted by Faye, only to resurrect like Athena did back in GoW3.

He may even see getting the Power of Hope back for the final fight, like he actually transcendence by becoming the God of Hope, which would be fitting/ironic for his character.

After that, he may simply decide to leave the Nine Worlds, knowing that everything its safe and that Atreus no longer need him, finally moving with his life.

 

[Lilixa]

I have a feeling Odin probably have more versatile abilities/feat than Zeus, especially with sealing, curse, corruption abilities he has.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

It's been a few months since I've been here. So I've noticed Kratos' profile has been bunched all together. Wow.

 

[Lilixa]

btw is it possible they will introduce Apophatic theology in next GoW ?

Apophatic theology - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Lilixa]

https://sms.playstation.com/stories/god-of-war-ragnarok-accessibility-features

The prophecy of Ragnarök brings changes to all the Realms,

 

[Dienomite22]

Well what do you know? More instances of the Greek Mythology being called a “World” and realm.

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Starting with the release of God of War in 2005 on PlayStation®2, Santa Monica Studio has created seven games across multiple platforms. Up to the most recent release in 2018, the franchise focused on Kratos’ journey in the Greek world

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“Starting with the release of God of War in 2005 on PlayStation®2, Santa Monica Studio has created seven games across multiple platforms. Up to the most recent release in 2018, the franchise focused on Kratos’ journey in the Greek world, following a path of vengeance as a result of being tricked into killing his family by the Olympian gods”

and

“Prior to the franchise entry released in 2018, God of War™ began in a realm of brutal Greek mythology”

 

[Lilixa]

Interesting, world and realms that separated by geography. Now we need to know what separated by geography means in GoW Context.

From what i remembers in classical myth/religions sea believed had infinite size.

 

[Lilixa]

still no GoW trailer huh ? i thought they will released it in PS State of Play.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed.

 

[Lilixa]

Keep your expectations low and you will never be disappointed.

yeah... i bet after GoW Ragnarok released there will be a lot of

• Dev Interview
• Secondary Canon Stuff (Comic, Novel, Guide and lore book, Art Books, Web based GoW Lore)

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Would be pretty cool

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Anyone ever wonder how strong Kratos was a regular general? Does he have any feats?

 

[Lilixa]

I think it’s less actual travel and more some weird invisibility hax
Perhaps he shifts himself to another realm’s frequency so while he’s physically there you can’t see him?

it could definitely be some weird range or power null tho

this might be true.

All realms exist on same physical space, but the fact Valkyrie able to move freely to all realms (hellheim is past), (midgard is present) and (asgard is future) makes me wonder if Valkyrie has legit immeasurable speed feat...

 

[KLOL506]

this might be true.

All realms exist on same physical space, but the fact Valkyrie able to move freely to all realms (hellheim is past), (midgard is present) and (asgard is future) makes me wonder if Valkyrie has legit immeasurable speed feat...

Same physical space, but completely separate flows of time.

 

[Stefano4444]

Question shouldn't Zeus, Hades, Ares and Poseidon get the same abilities/resistances as their Redeemed Warriors?

Since the powers the Redeemed Warrior take via Alleigance come from the gods, the gods themself should get them via scaling as well.

 

[Hellbeast]

Aye they should

I had a plan to add a lot of powers to the Warriors and the Gods

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Yeah I think so.


Also One thing I've been curious of for a while, is what's going to be done with the Furies moon feat now that Universal energy stuff got accepted?

 

[Hellbeast]

I have my own take on it but I don’t think Tisiphone applies under the main one (and she’s the one with the feats)

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Ah. Well what's your take? I want to say it's an outlier, but you do have the Hammer in multiplayer so I'm not sure.

 

[Fixxed]

All realms exist on same physical space

Hey all realms is have its own time and space right? And all realms occupy in the same physical space

Doesn't make it low 1C structure??? I mean the physical space. Because what i read in string theory (brane cosmology), you can have large extradimensional if universe (4D structure) are subspace in higher dimensional space, and yogiri have 1B tiering because the universe is embeded (being subspace) in a large universe

String theory - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

There's a thread on this I think. The Yggdrasil was accepted to be a l1C structure, but later downgraded

 

[Fixxed]

There's a thread on this I think. The Yggdrasil was accepted to be a l1C structure, but later downgraded

Its downgrade because the only proof is "transcending time and space"

 

[KLOL506]

Hey all realms is have its own time and space right? And all realms occupy in the same physical space

Yes.

Doesn't make it low 1C structure??? I mean the physical space. Because what i read in string theory (brane cosmology), you can have large extradimensional if universe (4D structure) are subspace in higher dimensional space, and yogiri have 1B tiering because the universe is embeded (being subspace) in a large universe

String theory - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

No proof that the structure exists on a level of existence infinitely superior to the universes yet, hence why Yggdrasil is now 2-A. We're still waiting for Ragnarok to fill in more deets.

 

[KLOL506]

Its downgrade because the only proof is "transcending time and space"

Yeah, that can mean ****-all unless there's clear proof of going to a higher level of existence as well, Athena's case is a solid one but that one really doesn't have much to go on either.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

We'll just have 2 wait for Ragnarok to come out. In 2080.

 

[Hellbeast]

Ah. Well what's your take? I want to say it's an outlier, but you do have the Hammer in multiplayer so I'm not sure.

Basically I agree it's an outlier that makes very little sense when you consider cosmology but It's also worth noting Tisiphone never amplifies herself or any physical weapons so I don't think her powers should be universally applied, especially when they're a main justification for Tier 7 lower tiers

 

[Fixxed]

No proof that the structure exists on a level of existence infinitely superior to the universes yet,

I read in tiering system FAQ, the structure must infinitely larger than it subspace. And Yggdrasil's branch stretching out to infinity. Doesn't make it infinitely larger than the space and time??

 

[KLOL506]

I read in tiering system FAQ, the structure must infinitely larger than it subspace. And Yggdrasil's branch stretching out to infinity. Doesn't make it infinitely larger than the space and time??

That just gives it infinite branches with infinite possibilities, they need to be proven to exist on a higher level of existence than the realms themselves to qualify for that "infinitely larger" statement.

 

[Fixxed]

That just gives it infinite branches with infinite possibilities, they need to be proven to exist on a higher level of existence than the realms themselves to qualify for that "infinitely larger" statement.

No is not infinitely branches, i mean the branch of yggdrasil is literally infinite in size
And the "transcending time, transcending space", is not make it a higher level of existance???

And what i mean in here, according to string theory, you just have to put a 4D universe in larger universe as a subspace of it, and you can have large extradimensional structure. As long as i read, you dont have to proof a higher level or everything like that. Or this is not used in VsB??

 

[KLOL506]

No is not infinitely branches, i mean the branch of yggdrasil is literally infinite in size
And the "transcending time, transcending space", is not make it a higher level of existance???

And what i mean in here, according to string theory, you just have to put a 4D universe in larger universe as a subspace of it, and you can have large extradimensional structure. As long as i read, you dont have to proof a higher level or everything like that. Or this is not used in VsB??

The latter part is undergoing a site-wide revision I think.

 

[Marvel_Champion_07]

https://vsbattles.com/threads/kratos-vs-thor.137828/

 

[Lilixa]

So is it acceptable that Kratos has existence erasure resistance via Unity Stone ? I think that is only kratos (2018) major resistance missing in his profile and perhaps soul destruction resistance.

 

[KLOL506]

So is it acceptable that Kratos has existence erasure resistance via Unity Stone ? I think that is only kratos (2018) major resistance missing in his profile and perhaps soul destruction resistance.

Soul Manip Resistance he already has via Chains of Olympus stuff and via fighting against Hades.