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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

You know...D&D has some 5-D characters with good hax... Maybe Kratos could fight one of them...

He'd probably need Power of Hope though.
 
Planck69 said:
As "fun" as weeb hax will be, this'll never happen lol.
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I can see that, but chance SMS implemented like this never zero. Considering they use Maya during GoW :R development 💀 🗿

edit : Node editor/visual programming is created for creative artist/person/artist-friendly.
 
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Georredannea15 said:
What DT says is "to be significantly larger" =/= to be infinitely larger than infinity, to see like a point, to see like a line, or to see like a bubble.

DT rejected all of these situations.

As you can see, being infinitely greater than infinity, seeing like a point, a line, or a bubble is definitely not the same as “seeing as insignificantly small.”

And yes, DT said "NO" in all of these situations. So, these situations are not Low 1-C. NOT ANYMORE.
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No. He say if the universe can me measured to prove the space is significantly large then that space will be higher D. He not directly reject all the situation in there, he just reject it if the universe cannot be measured as proper size for make the space it significantly big
Well, depends on whether you can use the universes as measuring sticks for distances in the depiction or not.
Usually, you can not, because they are depicted as floating bubbles or lines or whatever which don't really depict proper size, and in that case I would say no to all of them. If you can use them in a way to measure the size of the 5D space to prove it's significantly large, then you could get somewhere. But... yeah, depicting 5D space in a way that conserves size is just pretty hard.
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Fixxed said:
No. He say if the universe can me measured to prove the space is significantly large then that space will be higher D. He not directly reject all the situation in there, he just reject it if the universe cannot be measured as proper size for make the space it significantly big
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Dude, what DT is talking about here is that you need to prove that the 5th axis is infinite or significantly large, you still continue to deny and distort, pls man stop that, it's obvious what he said, he clearly said that he rejects such statements such as "seeing like a point or line" and situations in the table.
 
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Georredannea15 said:
Dude, what DT is talking about here is that you need to prove that the 5th axis is infinite or significantly large, you still continue to deny and distort, pls man stop that, it's obvious what he said, he clearly said that he rejects such statements such as "seeing like a point or line" and situations in the table.
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Bruh... he literally say DEPENDS on the universe can be maesuring sticks or not, if not then all the situation in there is not. The all what you need is just have the universe as measuring sticks for prove the space is significantly large. He not say seeing like a point or line, he say most verse is depicted the universe as bubble or line or whatever thats not depict proper size for measure, that mean we cannot say the space is significantly large compare to the universe
 
Georredannea15 said:
Then open a downgrade thread, I'm not good with Pokemon.

Void still contains energy, while "nothingness" does not even contain energy. The statement of "void" depends on the context.
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Soon

Bruh, what you talking in here is vacuum space. I mean void that literally void, it just a synonym for nothingness, they two is the same thing
 
Fixxed said:
Bruh... he literally say DEPENDS on the universe can be maesuring sticks or not, if not then all the situation in there is not. The all what you need is just have the universe as measuring sticks for prove the space is significantly large. He not say seeing like a point or line, he say most verse is depicted the universe as bubble or line or whatever thats not depict proper size for measure, that mean we cannot say the space is significantly large compare to the universe
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He said here you need to prove that the extra axis of space is significantly large or infinite. And yes, he stated that "seeing like a bubble, seeing like a point and seeing like a line" are not enough for this. And yes, that's what I advocated from the beginning and it turned out to be true
 
Georredannea15 said:
He said here you need to prove that the extra axis of space is significantly large or infinite. And yes, he stated that "seeing like a bubble, seeing like a point and seeing like a line" are not enough for this. And yes, that's what I advocated from the beginning and it turned out to be true
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His first paragraph is literally talking about how to get the extra axis. Bruh even yggdrasil have extra axis because the RBR is encompasses the realm and being infinity. Not "seeing like a bubble or blablabla", but "most verse depicted as a bubble or blablabla", not literally a bubble or a point is just depicted as that, if it mean literal... bruh a point is literally 0 dimensional, so seeing as point is equal to seeing as 0 dimensional, something that not have volume. And line is literally 1 dimensional, so seeing as line is equal to seeing as 1 dimensional. If the thing is 3D, you will have higher D for only just seeing it as point or line
 
Fixxed said:
His first paragraph is literally talking about how to get the extra axis. Bruh even yggdrasil have extra axis because the RBR is encompasses the realm and being infinity. Not "seeing like a bubble or blablabla", but "most verse depicted as a bubble or blablabla", not literally a bubble or a point is just depicted as that, if it mean literal... bruh a point is literally 0 dimensional, so seeing as point is equal to seeing as 0 dimensional, something that not have volume. And line is literally 1 dimensional, so seeing as line is equal to seeing as 1 dimensional. If the thing is 3D, you will have higher D for only just seeing it as point or line
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1- This is not the reason why Yggdrasil is Low 1-C lol.
If it's enough for Low 1-C, Lmao then all the spaces in the verses would be Low 1-C.

The reason Yggdrasil is Low 1-C is not only because of its "size" is infinite, it's also infinite in it's 5th axis(The branches that cover the 5th axis and are this axis itself are infinite.)

You may be an infinite space with a 5th axis, but that doesn't mean your 5th axis(5th volume) is infinite, only your 4 axis are infinite and your 5th axis is of negligible size, just like in all the verses, according to your logic, every space containing these universes and infinite must be Low 1-C, but it's wrong. What QS means is that actually this axis is already infinite. If this axis is negligible sized, then there is no QS and Low 1-C here

2- What he is talking about is that the measurement difference between universes is generally used with this statements in the verses, but this is not enough for Tier 1.
Usually, you can not, because they are depicted as floating bubbles or lines or whatever which don't really depict proper size, and in that case I would say no to all of them.
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Eseseso said:


Atreus should probably get resistance to the Light of Alfheim.
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Already tried before, we rejected it. Atreus putting his hand there gets ****** up.

You wouldn't get true resistance unless you actually entered the Shaft itself.

Actually, that's partly why most other characters had it removed because Atreus's LoA arrows potentially constituted as game mechanics or had it relegated as "Limited Resistance".
 
KLOL506 said:
Already tried before, we rejected it. Atreus putting his hand there gets ***** up.

You wouldn't get true resistance unless you actually entered the Shaft itself.

Actually, that's partly why most other characters had it removed because Atreus's LoA arrows potentially constituted as game mechanics or had it relegated as "Limited Resistance".
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Still pulled Kratos out of there without any harm.
 
Eseseso said:
Still pulled Kratos out of there without any harm.
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Atreus didn't have to go all the way through to pull him out tho. Just enough.

It still wouldn't be anything above "Limited Resistance" at best. To the LoA specifically.
 
KLOL506 said:
Energies of Tartarus (Posed an even bigger problem for Kratos and almost successfully screwed his soul over for Hades to amp himself) < Sisters of Fate Magic (Only other force besides Hades who can actually destroy Kratos' soul)
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How are the Sisters of Fate above Energies of Tartarus?
 
Eseseso said:
How are the Sisters of Fate above Energies of Tartarus?
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KLOL confuses layers sometimes, don't mind it. In this case, it's true for some of the powers of the Sisters of Fate but not everything.

There are layers but they're not uniform things. Some magics and hax have 1 layer, some have 5.
 
Planck69 said:
KLOL confuses layers sometimes, don't mind it. In this case, it's true for some of the powers of the Sisters of Fate but not everything.

There are layers but they're not uniform things. Some magics and hax have 1 layer, some have 5.
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I just feel like, unless they actually destroyed his soul, they should just be equal to Hades for threatening his soul.
 
Eseseso said:
I just feel like, unless they actually destroyed his soul, they should just be equal to Hades for threatening his soul.
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Er, not quite.

Some gods and beings have baseline resistance to soul corruption and consumption from other magics, like Seidr.

Jotnar soul magic specifically would be above this level since it can affect Odin and he already resists the baseline effects of Seidr.

The Light of Alfheim is dangerous to everyone in the entire Norse world without exception and so far only Kratos has been confirmed to survive the shaft itself without any sort of harm.

The Light did nothing to Kratos but Hades and the energies of Tartarus can actually threaten Kratos's soul.

Kratos in turn can't effect Zeus even with Hades' weapons and powers.

Fear Zeus can destroy Kratos's soul with one move and with the Power of Hope, Kratos becomes invincible to Fear.

The above example shows how layers may vary even for the same thing. Notice how at some point, hax and resistance potency start to differ.
 
Planck69 said:
Er, not quite.

Some gods and beings have baseline resistance to soul corruption and consumption from other magics, like Seidr.

Jotnar soul magic specifically would be above this level since it can affect Odin and he already resists the baseline effects of Seidr.
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Makes sense.
Planck69 said:
The Light of Alfheim is dangerous to everyone in the entire Norse world without exception and so far only Kratos has been confirmed to survive the shaft itself without any sort of harm.
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Tbf, has anyone actually resisted Jotun soul magic?
 
Planck69 said:
Like, AP? He's not in the upper rung (those guys are 6-D).

In 5-D, he clears most of them bar the instant plot wielders. He also has one of the highest 5-D APs.
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He clears most 5-Ds, even those that have 6-D AP but don't have 6-D HDE and good resistance. But I want he to be 6-D 😗
 
Gasper said:
No what? 6-D characters just AP stomp lol
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By default, 6-D AP cannot affect conceptual type 8 immo and similar things. This degree of hax is also required. And also resistance is required. If you have no resistance and Kratos attacks you first, GG. AP or durability doesn't save you here
 
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