God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

[KLOL506]

honestly, a very few people should be low 1-C. Kratos is a given aswell as freya.

Primordial Magics scaling to this means everyone else scales too. Plus, Primordials, Titans and Olympians are literally in the same ballpark when it comes to power.

Primordial shit is Primordial shit regardless of what Pantheon you go to, so their magics, potency and mechanics are pretty much the exact same and will 100% scale to each other, as Surtr literally tells you.

 

[KLOL506]

Plus Planck is cooking some heinous shit for Greece so stay tuned for that.

 

[Diamentus]

Plus Planck is cooking some heinous shit for Greece so stay tuned for that.

Any sort of hint on what it'll be?

 

[KLOL506]

Any sort of hint on what it'll be?

All I can say is, it was a mistake to let him cook.

Now he'll cook beyond what any of us can bear.

 

[Diamentus]

All I can say is, it was a mistake to let him cook.

Now he'll cook beyond what any of us can bear.

Jesus. Is it going to be tiering shit or hax?

 

[Chianli]

Man I love the hedgewolf stages. (Yes I know this is a GOW and that its called WEREHOG but that is a misdominer)

 

[Planck69]

Jesus. Is it going to be tiering shit or hax?

I might be able to make Greece Low 1-C on its own. I'll have to be sure.

 

[KLOL506]

Jesus. Is it going to be tiering shit or hax?

Tiering mainly, maybe a bit of hax sprinkled on top too. Won't change our new Low 1-C tiers or dimensionality but will have some similarly insane shit to boot.

 

[KLOL506]

The malding should start aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany second now.

Any second now...

 

[Eseseso]

I might be able to make Greece Low 1-C on its own. I'll have to be sure.

COOK

 

[KLOL506]

COOK

Y'all smoking that big fat stack huh

 

[Planck69]

The malding should start aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaany second now.

Any second now...

No one cares lmfao

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Bro so many matches got removed from Kratos page.... it's crazy. The Yhwach and Naruto ones, as a tier 6/4, it doesn't seem like it's many folks on those tiers that could beat Kratos at this point given that he now has 5-D Smurf hax.

I'd throw the Barbarian King at a few Bleach and Naruto characters, given he's not as haxed, but even he has Tier 1 soul hax at this point whenever he gets page.

The furies are even worse, now.

They got 5-D mindhax.

Holy shit how far GOW has come from High 6-A lol

 

[KLOL506]

Bro so many matches got removed from Kratos page.... it's crazy. The Yhwach and Naruto ones, as a tier 6/4, it doesn't seem like it's many folks on those tiers that could beat Kratos at this point given that he now has 5-D Smurf hax.

Yhwach and Naruto became stomps in favor of Kratos the moment his hax became 4D, we didn't even need 5D to get the point across anymore. The mald was gold in the case of Yhwach. Him getting downgraded didn't exactly do him any favors either.

I'd throw the Barbarian King at a few Bleach and Naruto characters, given he's not as haxed, but even he has Tier 1 soul hax at this point whenever he gets page.

Any kind of soul hax at that level means Naruto is ****** beyond belief.

The furies are even worse, now.

They got 5-D mindhax.

Holy shit how far GOW has come from High 6-A lol

Even the Furies, yeah.

Mattugr Helson is the last Tier 2 character standing in GoW now, but even hax is 5D as all Runic Magic is now 5D via Primordial Jotnar Essence and stuff.

 

[KLOL506]

It's also quite funny seeing Gojo vs Kratos still being kinda valid in hindsight. Gojo literally got Yamamoto'd by an ability that Kratos handily tanks on a regular basis from freakin' Garm and Nidhogg of all people. Makes Vergil's Judgment Cut look puny in comparison.

 

[Diamentus]

Yhwach and Naruto became stomps in favor of Kratos the moment his hax became 4D, we didn't even need 5D to get the point across anymore. The mald was gold in the case of Yhwach. Him getting downgraded didn't exactly do him any favors either.


Any kind of soul hax at that level means Naruto is ***** beyond belief.


Even the Furies, yeah.

Mattugr Helson is the last Tier 2 character standing in GoW now, but even hax is 5D as all Runic Magic is now 5D via Primordial Jotnar Essence and stuff.

Send the Yhwach thread, I want to see that comedic gold again.

 

[KLOL506]

Send the Yhwach thread, I want to see that comedic gold again.

Here you go. It ended in a massive landslide victory for Kratos, as did the Gojo fight (He pulled a clean sheet there too).

 

[KLOL506]

Epic foreshadowing

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Funny thing is the cookbook has actually been out a while. Everything was right under our noses lmao

 

[KLOL506]

There is so much untapped potential in the older guidebooks as well, literally the alt time dimension thing from the GoW2 Brady Guide.

 

[Diamentus]

There is so much untapped potential in the older guidebooks as well, literally the alt time dimension thing from the GoW2 Brady Guide.

Still wish law manip got through ngl

 

[Fixxed]

Is someone thinking about 6D kratos and athena???
Because i think the proof is very clear and straightforward mean about higher D

I mean bruh... what "higher existence" and "higher plane" even mean

 

[KLOL506]

Is someone thinking about 6D kratos and athena???
Because i think the proof is very clear and straightforward mean about higher D

I mean bruh... what "higher existence" and "higher plane" even mean

Nah bruh, discard those thoughts from your head, nobody will be stupid enough to ever try this without revisions to HDE standards.

 

[Fixxed]

Nah bruh, discard those thoughts from your head, nobody will be stupid enough to ever try this without revisions to HDE standards.

Then i'll revise the standard soon

Well i just think it not make sense that we all say "case by case" and "context of the verse". But then we ignore the very clear context that the verse really want to point out

 

[Lilixa]

well if higher existence mean adding additional axis and that axis is very large or infinite that could work but someone really need to dig logical reasoning book to construct such argument.

 

[Lilixa]

He wouldn't be the first. "Flowery language" arguments have been used multitudes of times before. Won't work here.

due to simplicity of RBR statement, i would imagine it's very hard to downgrade.

 

[Lilixa]

let say X is 1-D being in 1-D space. Y say to X "i'm ascended to higher existence relative to this space". Is Y 2-D being in 2-D Space ?


Also what is difference between Higher existence and bigger existence semantically ?

 

[KLOL506]

due to simplicity of RBR statement, i would imagine it's very hard to downgrade.

It goes into elaboration quite a couple of times too. Only coping mechanism now would be "Random-ass guidebook", to which I say, "secondary canon, written by Tyr himself, authorized by Sony and has actual dev insights from Sony like Matt Sophos and the like".

I too was in denial of it initially. But ultimately it seems that such doubts are best put to sleep. No more uber-void, it's all part of Ygg.

 

[Planck69]

It goes into elaboration quite a couple of times too. Only coping mechanism now would be "Random-ass guidebook", to which I say, "secondary canon, written by Tyr himself, authorized by Sony and has actual dev insights from Sony like Matt Sophos and the like".

I too was in denial of it initially. But ultimately it seems that such doubts are best put to sleep. No more uber-void, it's all part of Ygg.

The cookbook unironically has more canonicity to it than the Greek novelization. It's written by a character in-universe, officially published by Santa Monic Studios and has backing from the developers, silly as it sounds.

 

[Eseseso]

I remember that Ygg used to be Low 1-C in like 2021. I forget why it got axed.

 

[Planck69]

I remember that Ygg used to be Low 1-C in like 2021. I forget why it got axed.

"transcending space and time" wasn't enough IIRC.

 

[Eseseso]

"transcending space and time" wasn't enough IIRC.

Which is kinda weird considering it transcends literal space-times.

 

[Eseseso]

Bro so many matches got removed from Kratos page.... it's crazy. The Yhwach and Naruto ones, as a tier 6/4, it doesn't seem like it's many folks on those tiers that could beat Kratos at this point given that he now has 5-D Smurf hax.

I'd throw the Barbarian King at a few Bleach and Naruto characters, given he's not as haxed, but even he has Tier 1 soul hax at this point whenever he gets page.

The furies are even worse, now.

They got 5-D mindhax.

Holy shit how far GOW has come from High 6-A lol

Just curious, where does the 5-D mindhax come from?

Mind-haxxing the hundred-armed dude?

 

[KLOL506]

Just curious, where does the 5-D mindhax come from?

Mind-haxxing the hundred-armed dude?

Plus the scaling chain that stems from the Greek Magics scaling above Norse because LoA is a complete joke compared to rudimentary hax in Greece because yes.

If you wanna take it even further you could even say the Furies' hax potency stems from the blood of Chaos herself, as they were, well, formed from her punched-off jaw in the malestrom. If anyone would be oozing with that kind of power, it'd be the Furies for sure.

 

[Planck69]

Just curious, where does the 5-D mindhax come from?

Mind-haxxing the hundred-armed dude?

They can affect Kratos, who can tank the Light of Alfheim to his soul/mind/luck.

 

[KLOL506]

They can affect Kratos, who can tank the Light of Alfheim to his soul/mind/luck.

Also, it's hilarious how the Light of Alfheim is the almighty feared force in all of Norse after the RBR, and yet somehow Kratos is the only being in the entire verse, from a different pantheon, who just went in, survived unscathed and just had to be pulled out by Atreus. Nobody else will go within 10 meters of it. WILD.

 

[Eseseso]

I wonder if the LoA could kill any of the top Greek Gods.

 

[Planck69]

I wonder if the LoA could kill any of the top Greek Gods.

In raw power, Freya didn't want smoke with it,"not even in a million winters".

 

[KLOL506]

In raw power, Freya didn't want smoke with it,"not even in a million winters".

Kratos: I went into the Light of Alfheim, I was trapped but Atreus saved me.

Odin as Fake Tyr: And somehow you're just completely intact and not insane or incinerated.

 

[Eseseso]

In raw power, Freya didn't want smoke with it,"not even in a million winters".

If it can kill w/ raw power, how did it not kill 2018 Kratos, who is weaker than Ragnarok Freya?