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Not sure why you'd need one, it's literally in the game.
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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread
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I don't have the greek games atm so can't take ss, so for those i only have yt scans and shig
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Lmaoo i need to say that, that matt dude has some of the most braindead arguments i have ever seen.
Literally comicvine level of stupidity.
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Like I said, Matt is a shadow of his former self now. His opinion doesn't amount to jackshit anymore. He tried having the Greek thread closed 6 times in a row and tried making a rule against the upgrades, if Kep didn't undo his bullshit, Uni GoW would be a pipedream by now.
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In general sense I am sometimes randomly awed with how much we here at wiki dictate the powerscaling perspective meta/narrative of many verses accross entire internet.
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And sometimes it's really sad.
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i think VS debating/powerscaling has a lot positive benefit such as
- mental gymnastic
- encouraging people to think critically and logically
- encouraging people to learn logic, mathematics, metaphysics, physics, philosophy, etc
- encouraging people to avoid informal and formal fallacy
- Data oriented thinking and possibly object oriented thinking
- modular and algorithm thinking
- psychology empowerment
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Indeed. I have been exploiting deficiencies in VSBW's protections to harvest data from tens of thousands every week.
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Did you also find irregularities in Barcelona's funding that led to their outing at court for bribery with the referees chief?
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This GoW CRT is legendary, this was the time when most people tought Tier 2 Kratos was complete bullshit:
I went through it like 5 times just beacuse it is so entertaining.
I went through it like 5 times just beacuse it is so entertaining.
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I wonder if I'm in there somewhere. I used to be staunchly against anything that's above 5-B.
I'm still hesitant to an extent, but nowhere near as much.
Edit: I am. But it was a about single tweet that basically amounted to an opinion with the evidence at the time.
I'm still hesitant to an extent, but nowhere near as much.
Edit: I am. But it was a about single tweet that basically amounted to an opinion with the evidence at the time.
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Btw klol, when did you became a GOW debater? Like, did you just start to like GOW?
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Nah, it was right around a year back when GoW2018 came to PC.
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LMFAO, imagine missing the point of GoW2 and GoW3
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Didn't watched it yet but i recall in a video he was also saying the game was doing a shitty attempt at redeeming the Kratos
But Yeah people miss Kratos only acts like that cuz after Zeus betrayed and destroyed his last family alongside Athena death speech he doesn't have anything to give a **** about anymore
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Clownery. There's no point in arguing with these mooks at all. Just ignore them, move on, and forget the GoW wiki ever existed, given that they don't take too kindly to actually viewing the lore in-depth.
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It kind of feels like this person just skimmed the cutscenes, honestly.
Kratos is actually a very empty person due to his upbringing, and has consistently tried and failed at using sex and violence to fill the void. He found that the void could only be filled by the genuine affection from a family, so the deaths of his entire family (including Deimos) and the manipulation of his fate at the Gods' hands was the straw that broke the Camel's back. Kratos got revenge on the Gods, but it was no more successful than his other attempts to fill the void and just ended up wrecking the Greek world.
It's certainly not Kratos is a hero, Kratos becomes a villain, Kratos redeems himself. He was never really a conventional hero as such.
Kratos is actually a very empty person due to his upbringing, and has consistently tried and failed at using sex and violence to fill the void. He found that the void could only be filled by the genuine affection from a family, so the deaths of his entire family (including Deimos) and the manipulation of his fate at the Gods' hands was the straw that broke the Camel's back. Kratos got revenge on the Gods, but it was no more successful than his other attempts to fill the void and just ended up wrecking the Greek world.
It's certainly not Kratos is a hero, Kratos becomes a villain, Kratos redeems himself. He was never really a conventional hero as such.
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GoW3 is ending isn't about Kratos redeeming himself as much as it is abot learning to forgive himself and move on, a messy ""closure"" sort of. Obviously such things cannot have closure, but things did need to move on.
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Honestly man just ignore them at this point, not worth getting into arguments with them, they can't force the standards and views they have onto you or this wiki so just hang back and leave them to it.
Yeah I'm pretty sure he widely missed how the point of the game wasn't an attempt at redeeming him but showing how far gone he's become at this point and how he's gotta at least try and move on from everything that happened in the past. Granted the writing for GOW3 can be pretty wonky but otherall I think the themes of the story are pretty clear that it's not meant to be a straightforward typical redemption arc.
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Kratos was never really a conventional hero for him to be redeemed. His sense of empathy and meaning was found in his family and to a lesser extent his home city of Sparta but that aside, he was an ambitious and bloodthirsty warrior that would do anything for victory and glory.
When he lost his family due his own hand and the gods, as well as his home, he lost all of that and lashed out at the perpetrators to soothe his rage and misery. But all it does is destroy everything around him and leave him unresolved. He works through some of his core failings to gain Hope but even then, him giving it to humanity was as much an act of defiance and last-hour pettiness than it was a selfless sacrifice.
When he lost his family due his own hand and the gods, as well as his home, he lost all of that and lashed out at the perpetrators to soothe his rage and misery. But all it does is destroy everything around him and leave him unresolved. He works through some of his core failings to gain Hope but even then, him giving it to humanity was as much an act of defiance and last-hour pettiness than it was a selfless sacrifice.
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The actual narrative of GoW series is giving people their free will and power back.
Kratos did it in the messiest and most accidental way ever.
Kratos did it in the messiest and most accidental way ever.
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What pocket dimension is this?
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The one Ares makes in his battle with Kratos.
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The one Ares made.
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Honestly it doesn't matter whether or not Ares made the dimension TBF (Even tho he most definitely did given the context of the events), he can already manipulate all aspects of it since he's effectively omnipresent in the dimension, and 2, it really isn't relevant in the tiering scheme of things, because it's only there to show that Ares knows what a galaxy is, what it looks like and he couldn't have BFR'd Kratos to it out of the blue without knowing an IRL galaxy and its properties which definitively exist in the normal Mortal Universe in Greek World.
It was made in response to downplayers of 2018-2019 who argued that the Greek GoW Universe wasn't a proper universe, but ultimately, it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things given we have Ascension and the Comics prove otherwise.
It was made in response to downplayers of 2018-2019 who argued that the Greek GoW Universe wasn't a proper universe, but ultimately, it's irrelevant in the grand scheme of things given we have Ascension and the Comics prove otherwise.
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I agree, i always seen as it as why norse kratos tries to redeem himself (granted gow 3 was 7 years before gow 4)
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Honestly a lot of people seem to forget the type of stories the games were based on, there's a reason "greek tragedy" is such a well known form of story telling the whole point is that the protagonists are pretty much doomed from the start to have their lives take a turn for the worst at some point, for Kratos selling his soul in a moment of weakness was that turning point and he was going to end up in that situation from the moment he was born.
The fact that it's so irrelevant makes me baffled as to why people tend to try and discredit it so much, like cool that they wanna argue Ares didn't make the dimension but with all the other stuff from the games they won't address any of it with even half as much as they do with that dimension shit Ares pulls.
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Nothing really implies they loose any power while empowering a champion as far as I'm aware.
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