God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

[KLOL506]

Still 1000% better than Zeus tbh

Zeus going loco was kind of Kratos's fault tho. Odin literally went paranoid on the basis that he could die in the future.

Zeus actively helped Kratos out despite knowing that he was his son and that he was responsible for leaving his brother to suffer in the Domain of Death, knowing that these two would come at him for vengeance if they knew the truth, yet he kept them around thinking he could keep them in check, but the moment Kratos opened the box, Zeus was effectively consumed with fear and became enraged and obsessed with Kratos's death.

 

[Planck69]

Zeus actively helped Kratos out despite knowing that he was his son and that he was responsible for leaving his brother to suffer in the Domain of Death, knowing that these two would come at him for vengeance if they knew the truth, yet he kept them around thinking he could keep them in check, but the moment Kratos opened the box, Zeus was effectively consumed with fear and became enraged and obsessed with Kratos's death.

Regarding this, I do wonder how and why Deimos was kept around that long. I would assume that the prophecy of a marked warrior would spur Zeus to kill him but he seemingly just sent Ares and Athena to capture him and lock him away, where any deity could just strike a deal with Thanatos to turn him into a weapon against the gods.

 

[KLOL506]

Regarding this, I do wonder how and why Deimos was kept around that long. I would assume that the prophecy of a marked warrior would spur Zeus to kill him but he seemingly just sent Ares and Athena to capture him and lock him away, where any deity could just strike a deal with Thanatos to turn him into a weapon against the gods.

I mean, maybe because Zeus took pity on him and not on Deimos? Hera did tell Zeus unsuccessfully to kill Kratos the day he was born.

 

[Planck69]

I mean, maybe because Zeus took pity on him and not on Deimos? Hera did tell Zeus unsuccessfully to kill Kratos the day he was born.

Possibly. Though, it'd have made more sense to lock him up somewhere guarded by an Olympian who'd have a vested interest in preserving their rule rather than with a Primordial God of only tangential loyalty to him. Or maybe he was just confident he could deal with any unforeseen outcome.

 

[Dienomite22]

Ragnarok is gonna either make me like Odin as a villain or not care for him. I hope they don't make him into someone that makes himself seem smarter than he actually is and is someone that is easily bested and outsmarted by Krato and Atreus simply traveling and not scheming a smidge themselves. I really want him to be an incredible schemer that is underestimated by most if not all of the characters and really prove his status as the apex of the Norse realm.

 

[Chianli]

Ragnarok is gonna either make me like Odin as a villain or not care for him. I hope they don't make him into someone that makes himself seem smarter than he actually is and is someone that is easily bested and outsmarted by Krato and Atreus simply traveling and not scheming a smidge themselves. I really want him to be an incredible schemer that is underestimated by most if not all of the characters and really prove his status as the apex of the Norse realm.

either way odin making himself smarter thn he seens is honestly in character.

 

[Dienomite22]

I've been looking over the trailer a lot and I think the enemies we see Krato's use the Blades of Chaos to jump to and slam down on with the Leviathan axe are from Asgard. The trail of the objects they throw are rainbows.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Zeus going loco was kind of Kratos's fault tho. Odin literally went paranoid on the basis that he could die in the future.

Zeus actively helped Kratos out despite knowing that he was his son and that he was responsible for leaving his brother to suffer in the Domain of Death, knowing that these two would come at him for vengeance if they knew the truth, yet he kept them around thinking he could keep them in check, but the moment Kratos opened the box, Zeus was effectively consumed with fear and became enraged and obsessed with Kratos's death.

Nah bro i'm talking about IRL Myth and Fate Odin

 

[Dienomite22]

Betting Thor vs Kratos is gonna be the reason for this game's version of Kratos getting his god powers absorbed in 2 and River of Styx in 3

 

[Planck69]

Betting Thor vs Kratos is gonna be the reason for this game's version of Kratos getting his god powers absorbed in 2 and River of Styx in 3

How'd that go? Like, the fight damaging his weapons severely or just plain injuries to his person?

 

[ATalentedMaid]

Zeus going loco was kind of Kratos's fault tho. Odin literally went paranoid on the basis that he could die in the future.

Zeus actively helped Kratos out despite knowing that he was his son and that he was responsible for leaving his brother to suffer in the Domain of Death, knowing that these two would come at him for vengeance if they knew the truth, yet he kept them around thinking he could keep them in check, but the moment Kratos opened the box, Zeus was effectively consumed with fear and became enraged and obsessed with Kratos's death.

Zeus merely aiding Kratos so that he can use him to his advantage. Then again, Whenever their well-being is threatened, both Odin and Zeus tend to be paranoid. Prior to Zeus becoming possessed by the Pandora Box's Fear, he considered Kratos a threat to the Olympian Gods.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Betting Thor vs Kratos is gonna be the reason for this game's version of Kratos getting his god powers absorbed in 2 and River of Styx in 3

You mean his weapons? Maybe. The Axe can be broken after all. Not so much the blades tho. And they're more powerful than leviathan and Mjolnir so idk. Maybe Odins nulls us like he did Freya?

 

[Dienomite22]

How'd that go? Like, the fight damaging his weapons severely or just plain injuries to his person?

I think Kratos won't use the BoC at the start and so its downgrade could possibly be explained away by Kratos putting them up for 3 years and the blades themselves removed the Norse enhancements after a period of time or something. I think the Leviathan axe (and Mjolnir) will get damaged badly during the fight, same with the shield which leads to a narrative reason for its upgrades and new mechanics. Kratos may get hurt but I don't know about that.

I do wonder if GOW 6 does become a thing that will happen to all these weapons because I think people would get tired of them by then but they all are important to Kratos that there wouldn't be a narrative reason for him not to have 3 of the weapons or easily replace them in a new entry. Though now that I think about it, at the end of Ragnarok I could see Kratos leaving the Leviathan Axe and shield in Jotunheim or someplace sacred to Faye as a sign that the mission to fulfill her wish is done or something.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Also I hope there's a moment in the game where Kratos and Thor intercept each other's weapons. I can totally see that

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Potentially major leaked spoilers warning. I don't know if anyone else has seen this leak but I think it came out before the artbook leaks that revealed Kratos fights the norns and the leak happen to also mention such a thing happening. If that's true the leak is probably real.

This is fake btw.

So good ideas tho

 

[Dienomite22]

This is fake btw.

So good ideas tho

I'm not sure. It conveniently got multiple things correct before the artbook leaks, things no one could've guessed. Not all of it might be correct but some of it sure was.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

I'm not sure. It conveniently got multiple things correct before the artbook leaks, things no one could've guessed. Not all of it might be correct but some of it sure was.

The Artbook was legit, this post? Doubt it.

What did it get correct before the Artbook?

 

[Dienomite22]

Btw, the same guy that did the artbook leak had the story trailer privately uploaded on youtube for 2 months and someone else tweeted lines Odin said in the trailer 4 months ago. That's pretty crazy.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Aight now I smell cap lol

 

[Dienomite22]

Aight now I smell cap lol

It's true, he posted the leak to a part of the trailer he had that was uploaded and the date is 2 months ago and the guy who tweeted Odin quotes still has those tweets up.

Had my dates mixed up but here's the proof: https://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2022/09/16/god-of-war-ragnarok-story-trailer-leak/

 

[Dienomite22]

The Artbook was legit, this post? Doubt it.

What did it get correct before the Artbook?

Odin's design
Odin being more psychological fight
Fighting the norns

All were in the artbook leak

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

It's true, he posted the leak to a part of the trailer he had that was uploaded and the date is 2 months ago and the guy who tweeted Odin quotes still has those tweets up.

Think you could find those tweets?

Odin's design
Odin being more psychological fight
Fighting the norns

All were in the artbook leak

Yeah I've seen them.
Are you referring to the reddit leak?

I didn't see Odin's design mentioned
And to be fair, Fighting the Norns, and Odin being a psychological battle are pretty easy to predict

 

[ATalentedMaid]

You mean his weapons? Maybe. The Axe can be broken after all. Not so much the blades tho. And they're more powerful than leviathan and Mjolnir so idk. Maybe Odins nulls us like he did Freya?

Unfortunately, Zeus clashes in Gow3 have destroy all of his weapons, but there is a chance for the Blade of Olympus.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Unfortunately, Zeus clashes in Gow3 have destroy all of his weapons, but there is a chance for the Blade of Olympus.

I don't think he'll need it, but I'd love to see the blade again. And actually the only thing that survived Zeus' blast was the blades.


What if Kratos brought all of his equipment from Greece to the Norse lands, and he hides them just in case, wouldn't that be cool?

Even everything that was broken in GOW 3

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Think you could find those tweets?

NVM found it

 

[Dienomite22]

Think you could find those tweets?

Edit a reply above with a link

Yeah I've seen them.
Are you referring to the reddit leak?

Yes

I didn't see Odin's design mentioned
And to be fair, Fighting the Norns, and Odin being a psychological battle are pretty easy to predict

He mentions Odin’s design being very different from Zeus and looking like an old man. Fightning norns and Odin’s fighting style aren’t hard pills to swallow as a possibility but not something everyone could guess. Keep in my before this trailer we knew practically nothing about the story nor about Odin’s role/look and how much literal fate will play a role in it.

 

[KLOL506]

Zeus merely aiding Kratos so that he can use him to his advantage. Then again, Whenever their well-being is threatened, both Odin and Zeus tend to be paranoid. Prior to Zeus becoming possessed by the Pandora Box's Fear, he considered Kratos a threat to the Olympian Gods.

Thing is, Odin is more paranoid than Zeus is, because Zeus is overtly too confident in his own abilities and often tends to underestimate people like Kratos who are driven by nothing but vengeance and will stop at nothing to achieve their goals.

 

[Lilixa]

Odin has obsession to gain any knowledge that can think of unlike Zeus or other Greek gods. Zeus never copying or learn any other abilities and make more powerful version of it while Odin experimenting with new magic on daily basis i guess.

 

[Chianli]

l hope kratos doesnt die until he wants to.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Freya should've had a page long ago.
She could easily be 2C with her magic as she reanimated Thamur and used him to restrain Kratos and Baldur, and with her plants, albeit briefly, and her Plants tanked an attacked from Baldur. Spellbound Freya in Base is probably around 10-B.

Her Valkyrie State could just be another key.

 

[KLOL506]

Freya should've had a page long ago.
She could easily be 2C with her magic as she reanimated Thamur and used him to restrain Kratos and Baldur, and with her plants, albeit briefly, and her Plants tanked an attacked from Baldur. Spellbound Freya in Base is probably around 10-B.

Her Valkyrie State could just be another key.

Her Valkyrie self is her True Self, her "base" self is just her Power Nulled self.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Yeah that's what I meant. Which is why I said "Spellbound"

 

[Huzy]

Does anyone have the scan which confirms that the evils ruled over reality itself?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Might be on the blogs.

Could be wrong tho

 

[KLOL506]

Does anyone have the scan which confirms that the evils ruled over reality itself?

Was there such a scan like that?

 

[Huzy]

I do remember there being a conversation with one of the writers where he was asked about Hope and Fear.

 

[KLOL506]

I do remember there being a conversation with one of the writers where he was asked about Hope and Fear.

The Stig Asmussen Convo?

 

[Huzy]

Yeah that's the one. I guess I did misremember the wording. It was "affect" not rule.

 

[Lilixa]

btw i feel like Ymir should have transduality type 1 since every living and non-living thing came from him.

 

[Lilixa]

btw there is rumor that during Odin final battle, Odin will have a lot of passive magic/protection around him that need to be nulled by atreus before kratos able to attack him. Those passive magic are represent by symbol or buff in odin health bar.