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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

btw so why people saying that Surtur feats are inconsistent ?

Inconsistent would be something like this : "Surtur can destroy nine-realms but in next timeframe he can't destroy nine-realms with same context and story with no reason. That is inconsistent".

But in Surtur case, he stabs the heart of asgard to destroy the realm does not negate the fact he has feat to destroy nine-realms.
 
Andika_CL_atmadja said:
btw so why people saying that Surtur feats are inconsistent ?

Inconsistent would be something like this : "Surtur can destroy nine-realms but in next timeframe he can't destroy nine-realms with same context and story with no reason. That is inconsistent".

But in Surtur case, he stabs the heart of asgard to destroy the realm does not negate the fact he has feat to destroy nine-realms.
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Only morons would argue the feat to be inconsistent, if anything, it lines up perfectly with Thor shaking the 9 Realms and splintering the Tree in both his fights, further supported by Garm, Nidhogg, Lindwyrms and even Odin himself- Whom Mimir blatantly states to have physically carved and fashioned the 6 other realms out of Ymir's flesh. The 2018 artbook also confirms that Odin has cursed Mimir to never be able to lie.

Surtr also clearly states he has no desire to live because he wants Sinmara to survive in his behest, so he was clearly going out on a suicide mission. Ragnarok Artbook also confirms that Sinmara and Surtr were supposed to merge and destroy ALL OF CREATION INCLUDING THE 9 REALMS, as opposed to destroying just Asgard and its branch (Which still violently shook the tree to its core) due to the order of events being completely changed.
 
KLOL506 said:
Only morons would argue the feat to be inconsistent, if anything, it lines up perfectly with Thor shaking the 9 Realms and splintering the Tree in both his fights, further supported by Garm, Nidhogg, Lindwyrms and even Odin himself- Whom Mimir blatantly states to have physically carved and fashioned the 6 other realms out of Ymir's flesh. The 2018 artbook also confirms that Odin has cursed Mimir to never be able to lie.

Surtr also clearly states he has no desire to live because he wants Sinmara to survive in his behest, so he was clearly going out on a suicide mission. Ragnarok Artbook also confirms that Sinmara and Surtr were supposed to merge and destroy ALL OF CREATION INCLUDING THE 9 REALMS, as opposed to destroying just Asgard and its branch (Which still violently shook the tree to its core) due to the order of events being completely changed.
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and all this pales to compare to zeus.
 
Doggo said:
I think that has been discussed here
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I don't think this specific one has been discussed, I know that really bad imgur album claiming Kratos is wall level or something was brought up but this one I don't think so.

Haven't properly looked through it myself but I did raise an eyebrow seeing one of the refutes for Zeus being FTL being that it takes him a second on screen to move 20 feet, which uh, not a particularly good argument.
 
Dust_Collector said:
I don't think this specific one has been discussed, I know that really bad imgur album claiming Kratos is wall level or something was brought up but this one I don't think so.

Haven't properly looked through it myself but I did raise an eyebrow seeing one of the refutes for Zeus being FTL being that it takes him a second on screen to move 20 feet, which uh, not a particularly good argument.
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I'll do you the favor, it's particularly bad, filled with blatant falsehoods and egregious leaving-out of other info at hand.

Currently writing a chunky debunk of this document but my anxiety is giving me a nervous stomach.
 
btw does this blog talk specifically on Greek GoW ?
docs.google.com

Let’s Talk About God of War

Let’s Talk About God of War The original Introduction I was inspired to write this because, strangely enough, nobody else had. (Unless I just missed it? I know there’s been scattered commentary on the God of War franchise’s power level increase, but nothing quite like what I wrote.) Kratos, see...
docs.google.com docs.google.com
 
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Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
One of the users on the death battle thread found this
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Already I see issues with that blog LMFAO, but I'll just gloss over some issues here.

"was unable to gaze into the horizon and see an island"

GEE, didn't know Gaia had special hiding powers.

And ohmygod, the nebula arguments again. This reeks of Joshless.

The time arguments are just as ******* bad, and we stopped using the "timeless void" as infinite speed. The whole "Abide by it" scene is visibly referring to Gaia's physical form being Acausality Type 1, while her true non-physical form is not bound by it, AKA Acausality Type 4.

The whole thing about the Primordials creating "galaxies" does not in any way, shape or form, come remotely close to contradicting the fact that Uranus created the universe, it's just Gyges's poetic way of telling that Uranus is the father of the Universe (Reality clearly shows it was viciously punched out of Uranus's face by Ceto). The creation of more galaxies happens much later in the war, but Uranus's body alone contained not just the universe but the infinite number of stars as well as his body appearance would literally tell you, so no, Gyges is still correct.

Also, Cronos's blow not looking like a supernova is blatant AoE fallacy, so that argument is out of the water.

Antikythera mechanism not relating to Atlas is pure nonsense, it visibly confirms there being an outer space and visibly confirming that Atlas is lifting the heavens.

"Uranus did not spawn the entire universe from his body when fighting Ceto. Earlier in this blog post, he’s described as creating “stars and nebulae,” which, while also inaccurate, is less inaccurate." is also pure bullshit, as I have stated above. Nebula argument is dogwater levels of cope.

"The God of War Universe does exist, but it cannot be found in its entirety in the Greek mythology saga." False, literally the spawning of galaxies and Ares BFR'ing Kratos to a dimension with a galaxy in it debunks the claim.

OHMYGOD the Underworld section is just as bad. Literally saying "Endless =/= Infinite", this is the same bullshit arguments I had to go through in other threads not related to GOW, nevermind the fact that the Underworld also has its own set of celestial bodies and stars. As are the arguments for infinite speed, because there are four feats in total, Helios and Light of Dawn, Uranus being bigger than the infinite universe, Atropos's projection speed and the Sisters of Fate weaving threads that span all of life and time AKA infinity. Also no game will ever bother actually showing infinite speed just by crossing an infinite distance. Even in cases where it is thoroughly shown even in comic books, it tends to completely break the story and its logic.

Now to the Light speed arguments. This is so wrong on so many levels, I just ******* can't. If on-screen feats really were shown to be FTL within that small spot then nobody would be able to react to Zeus. This is true for lightning timers in video games as well, lightning is slowed down on-screen to allow the player to dodge, but that doesn't mean it literally slows down in the game. Not being faster than sight can follow is a very poor argument.

Also, Hermes can dodge the Helios Sunburst regardless of whether he knows it's coming or not, as long as he's on solid ground, it not being infinitely fast or expansive is bunk anyway, plus Kratos would still scale to the weakened version of Hermes who is still infinite anyway, and nothing prevents Infinite speed being stacked up higher by massive scaling chains. So basically, Kratos with Hermes Boots > Peak Hermes > GoW3 Kratos on his own > Weakened Hermes > Helios Light = Infinite speed. Kratos still has more people to scale to down the chain with their own feats.

The souls thing is also, as expected, completely incorrect. Hermes does this rapidly, the comics show him effortlessly doing several menial tasks before even the other gods catch wind of what's happened. Same is done with the souls, GOW3 is blatant on this.

The Sisters of Fate not weaving the threads when Kratos fights them is a non-issue, gee, I didn't know that being pre-occupied in fisticuffs prevents you from being in the other room where the threads actually are.

Also, for the novel part, bold of the dude to just ignore the later tweets where she blatantly states that the novels are secondary canon (Tweets here and here), any contradiction in the novel favoring the game. William Weissbaum in his emails also confirm as much.

Hyperion Portal and Hermes' feats he has provided no solid counter to as of late so might as well not bother with it.

Kratos's statement about Jormungandr means nothing here. This does not prove in any sense that the Gods were exaggerating their claims, Kratos is visibly trying to hide his past from his son, and Ragnarok puts a wrench into such insinuations. Also, why would Kratos go through hell to gain all those power-ups to get back at the Gods if he knew they were exaggerating? What the **** is the purpose of GOW2 then?

The "Gyges boasting about Uranus" part is just dogshit. Uranus HATED Gyges, and Gyges, Gaia and the Titans in turn. Gyges however, has no reason to lie about exact vengeance by reviving his brothers and taking over the Pantheon now that their father is dead and buried. Most of these "exaggeration" claims are nonsense because how exactly would they benefit from bragging about such things? What logical reason would they have to do all of this? None.

The "Odin holds Atreus hostage" part is disgustingly bad, because gee, didn't know you require tension and drama to make a good story.

His response for Claim 2 means nothing to Uranus's recovery process, if he could banish the Hecatonchires (Beings who are noted to rival Titans like Atlas) to Tartarus just because they looked ugly to him and he ended up becoming the ruler, chances are he's more or less no weaker than he was in his prime.

Claim 3? Easy. To assume that it is a metaphor for merely bringing the day is just asinine. LITERALLY in that scene it says Helios banishes Nyx FROM the night sky. Kep already debunked the metaphor argument in detail but I'd argue you don't need that at all.

Claim 4 is just nitpicking at this point, and the same "novel not canon" argument. Not even worth debating. The whole omnipresent thing is also blatantly misrepresented, almost as if the writer of this dubious Google Doc doesn't know that temporal non-physical omnipresence is a thing.

"Hermes not capable of watching his footing" is false. He will blatantly dodge any attempt to blind him with Helios Light. Hercules also exists as a stain on this argument.

Clotho being a fat blob being unable to kill Kratos is pretty self-evident. How would she be able to tango with the man who just whacked her sisters like it was another day in school? Powerscaling much?

The Baldur argument is literally a "What the **** is this BS" moment.

The Elves feat and Hildisvini feats are equally bad representations, Kratos in both these scenes would do well to make sure his son doesn't get to know that they are gods.

As for the Yggdrasil feat, gee, didn't know that a rusty Kratos got overpowered by another Tier 2 structure, like, how can you ignore that? Like, Yggdrasil's definitions are blatant Tier 2 in every single aspect one can imagine, thanks to Ragnarok. And Freya has just regained her warrior spirit, and Kratos has also regained his shape, with the Ragnarok artbook confirming the two to be blatantly equal in every relevant metric.

The thick sheet of ice, huh? We really gonna go through that after what Kratos and Thor did? Or are we to ignore Thamur's breath being magical and that Thamur's dead body put up a decent fight against Kratos and Baldur in Freya's hands?

Again with the Odin holding Atreus hostage part. Tension and Drama. Also did I mention that Odin literally scales to Kratos in speed, and is maybe even a bit slightly faster? Isn't it strange that them being similar in speed Kratos would be hesitant and unsure if he can cross that distance fast enough?

" If Kratos, when pushed to the brink, cannot summon the strength he supposedly could casually wield beforehand, then he never actually had that strength." -what is he even talking about here?

The big bang question is not a leading question at all, it's literally in reference to the universe creation feat that happened in the game itself, it'd be a leading question if said material didn't exist anywhere else, which of course, is clearly not the case here.

The "cosmic feel" stuff is strictly about Uranus and Cronos's battle being of a cosmic scale similar to the Primordial War, it is merely another feat of similar scale to the Primordial war used to support the context and consistency of the nature of the feats.

The alternate dimension is literally just arguing for semantics at this point, won't bother with that either.

Time not existing in the war is completely irrelevant now, as timeless voids don't grant infinite speed, so we'll ignore that as well.

Mark Simon's comment does not in any way imply Zeus to be massively FTL, if anything, we can't even get a concrete number out of that other than just "unquantifiably FTL" without a calc, so that's a shit argument right out of the gate. Also, him being godly compared to the Redeemed Warriors would automatically make him faster anyway, power equates to not just physical strength, but speed as well, in GOW.

His responses to Claims 5 and 6 are bunk, Claim 6 especially more so, given that Nidhogg and Garmr now exist.

Claim 7 is just as BS, LITERALLY DOES NOT MATTER IF ARES CREATED IT OR NOT. Ares would still need to know what a galaxy looks like for him to even be able to BFR Kratos to such a place. That alone renders the entire refutation for this null and void. Number of stars here are also weirdly enough, completely low-balled, almost ignoring that there are stars even behind Kratos and that there is no free camera in the Greek games.

As for the Antikythera mechanism argument, unless you have proof that it functions differently than the IRL equivalent, don't make bullshit assumptions like this. This is literally the equivalent of arguing that fictional AR-15s may not operate the same way as the IRL AR-15.

"It's our moon as seen from an alternate dimension"- Wow, thanks for showing that it's a copy of our moon within said alternate dimension. Bravo.

"but the Greek world does not encapsulate all of it." is also unsurprisingly, grossly wrong as I have stated above.

His claim of "Tartarus" being vast rather than infinite is also grossly wrong as both WoG, the concept artist, the GOW Bonus Disc with the immeasurable statement (Which uses the same exact concept art as Cecil Kim's infinite distance statement which also is repeated in the GOW1 Prima Guidebook word-for-word, artwork for artwork), and the Tales of Helios Atlas and Persephone have shown us.

Hermes and Soul stuff? GOW3. That's all you need to know.

Also, what does Kratos not knowing about Hermes' job have to do with the speed feat not being legitimate?

Everything else beyond it is just cope about not being able to accept that Ascension rocketed GOW to the level it is today, and all further accusations of the tweets being "leading questions" are also equally disingenuous.

The dude claiming that "Thor’s battle with Jormungandr was “multiversal,” make little sense, because they explicitly clash with the basic story of the franchise in irreconcilable ways." is also incredibly false given everything we have been shown in the series so far.

The misleading statements argument is merely a lack of understanding of the existence of multiple forms of omnipresence that doesn't involve you being the entire universe physically or temporally.

The Gods have no reason to hyperbolize their details because there is absolutely no logical reason to do so for them. All of this dude's assumptions are pure headcanon. Using Kratos to defy their feats is merely him downplaying himself because he knows of the carnage that he caused across an entire Pantheon, plus it would completely demerit the existence of GOW2 and Kratos going through hell to gain back all of his powers so that he could kill Zeus once and for all.

Overall, terrible blog, shoddily written, countless falsehoods and blatant cherrypicking of the pieces of evidence presented to us, if not outright ignorance of them. There's a good reason why blogs like these don't amount to shit on our site anymore, and also why we have a rule against all of this.
 
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Andika_CL_atmadja said:
btw does this blog talk specifically on Greek GoW ?
docs.google.com

Let’s Talk About God of War

Let’s Talk About God of War The original Introduction I was inspired to write this because, strangely enough, nobody else had. (Unless I just missed it? I know there’s been scattered commentary on the God of War franchise’s power level increase, but nothing quite like what I wrote.) Kratos, see...
docs.google.com docs.google.com
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Yes, and brings in a few tidbits about the Norse feats and completely ignores all notions of powerscaling and site standards and calls us to be "twisting" the site's rules for some weird reason, accusing them to be leading questions when nothing here implies this. You want leading questions? Look up the "platonic concept" tweets that Bruno was asked about regarding Hope.
 
KLOL506 said:
Already I see issues with that blog LMFAO, but I'll just gloss over some issues here.

"was unable to gaze into the horizon and see an island"

GEE, didn't know Gaia had special hiding powers.

And ohmygod, the nebula arguments again. This reeks of Joshless.

The time arguments are just as ******* bad, and we stopped using the "timeless void" as infinite speed. The whole "Abide by it" scene is visibly referring to Gaia's physical form being Acausality Type 1, while her true non-physical form is not bound by it, AKA Acausality Type 4.

The whole thing about the Primordials creating "galaxies" does not in any way, shape or form, debunk Uranus not creating the universe. The creation of more galaxies happens much later in the war, but Uranus's body alone contained not just the universe but the infinite number of stars as well as his body appearance would literally tell you, so no, Gyges is still correct.

Also, Cronos's blow not looking like a supernova is blatant AoE fallacy, so that argument is out of the water.

Antikythera mechanism not relating to Atlas is pure nonsense, it visibly confirms there being an outer space and visibly confirming that Atlas is lifting the heavens.

"Uranus did not spawn the entire universe from his body when fighting Ceto. Earlier in this blog post, he’s described as creating “stars and nebulae,” which, while also inaccurate, is less inaccurate." is also pure bullshit, as I have stated above. Nebula argument is dogwater levels of cope.

"The God of War Universe does exist, but it cannot be found in its entirety in the Greek mythology saga." False, literally the spawning of galaxies and Ares BFR'ing Kratos to a dimension with a galaxy in it debunks the claim.

OHMYGOD the Underworld section is just as bad. Literally saying "Endless =/= Infinite", this is the same bullshit arguments I had to go through in other threads not related to GOW, nevermind the fact that the Underworld also has its own set of celestial bodies and stars. As are the arguments for infinite speed, because there are four feats in total, Helios and Light of Dawn, Uranus being bigger than the infinite universe, Atropos's projection speed and the Sisters of Fate weaving threads that span all of life and time AKA infinity. Also no game will ever bother actually showing infinite speed just by crossing an infinite distance. Even in cases where it is thoroughly shown even in comic books, it tends to completely break the story and its logic.

Now to the Light speed arguments. This is so wrong on so many levels, I just ******* can't. If on-screen feats really were shown to be FTL within that small spot then nobody would be able to react to Zeus. This is true for lightning timers in video games as well, lightning is slowed down on-screen to allow the player to dodge, but that doesn't mean it literally slows down in the game. Not being faster than sight can follow is a very poor argument.

Also, Hermes can dodge the Helios Sunburst regardless of whether he knows it's coming or not, as long as he's on solid ground, it not being infinitely fast or expansive is bunk anyway, plus Kratos would still scale to the weakened version of Hermes who is still infinite anyway, and nothing prevents Infinite speed being stacked up higher by massive scaling chains. So basically, Kratos with Hermes Boots > Peak Hermes > GoW3 Kratos on his own > Weakened Hermes > Helios Light = Infinite speed. Kratos still has more people to scale to down the chain with their own feats.

The souls thing is also, as expected, completely incorrect. Hermes does this rapidly, the comics show him effortlessly doing several menial tasks before even the other gods catch wind of what's happened. Same is done with the souls, GOW3 is blatant on this.

The Sisters of Fate not weaving the threads when Kratos fights them is a non-issue, gee, I didn't know that being pre-occupied in fisticuffs prevents you from being in the other room where the threads actually are.

Also, for the novel part, bold of the dude to just ignore the later tweets where she blatantly states that the novels are secondary canon (Tweets here and here), any contradiction in the novel favoring the game. William Weissbaum in his emails also confirm as much.

Hyperion Portal and Hermes' feats he has provided no solid counter to as of late so might as well not bother with it.

Kratos's statement about Jormungandr means nothing here. This does not prove in any sense that the Gods were exaggerating their claims, Kratos is visibly trying to hide his past from his son, and Ragnarok puts a wrench into such insinuations. Also, why would Kratos go through hell to gain all those power-ups to get back at the Gods if he knew they were exaggerating? What the **** is the purpose of GOW2 then?

The "Gyges boasting about Uranus" part is just dogshit. Uranus HATED Gyges, and Gyges, Gaia and the Titans in turn. Gyges however, has no reason to lie about exact vengeance by reviving his brothers and taking over the Pantheon now that their father is dead and buried. Most of these "exaggeration" claims are nonsense because how exactly would they benefit from bragging about such things? What logical reason would they have to do all of this? None.

The "Odin holds Atreus hostage" part is disgustingly bad, because gee, didn't know you require tension and drama to make a good story.

His response for Claim 2 means nothing to Uranus's recovery process, if he could banish the Hecatonchires (Beings who are noted to rival Titans like Atlas) to Tartarus just because they looked ugly to him and he ended up becoming the ruler, chances are he's more or less no weaker than he was in his prime.

Claim 3? Easy. To assume that it is a metaphor for merely bringing the day is just asinine. LITERALLY in that scene it says Helios banishes Nyx FROM the night sky. Kep already debunked the metaphor argument in detail but I'd argue you don't need that at all.

Claim 4 is just nitpicking at this point, and the same "novel not canon" argument. Not even worth debating. The whole omnipresent thing is also blatantly misrepresented, almost as if the writer of this dubious Google Doc doesn't know that temporal non-physical omnipresence is a thing.

"Hermes not capable of watching his footing" is false. He will blatantly dodge any attempt to blind him with Helios Light. Hercules also exists as a stain on this argument.

Clotho being a fat blob being unable to kill Kratos is pretty self-evident. How would she be able to tango with the man who just whacked her sisters like it was another day in school? Powerscaling much?

The Baldur argument is literally a "What the **** is this BS" moment.

The Elves feat and Hildisvini feats are equally bad representations, Kratos in both these scenes would do well to make sure his son doesn't get to know that they are gods.

As for the Yggdrasil feat, gee, didn't know that a rusty Kratos got overpowered by another Tier 2 structure, like, how can you ignore that? Like, Yggdrasil's definitions are blatant Tier 2 in every single aspect one can imagine, thanks to Ragnarok. And Freya has just regained her warrior spirit, and Kratos has also regained his shape, with the Ragnarok artbook confirming the two to be blatantly equal in every relevant metric.

The thick sheet of ice, huh? We really gonna go through that after what Kratos and Thor did? Or are we to ignore Thamur's breath being magical and that Thamur's dead body put up a decent fight against Kratos and Baldur in Freya's hands?

Again with the Odin holding Atreus hostage part. Tension and Drama. Also did I mention that Odin literally scales to Kratos in speed, and is maybe even a bit slightly faster? Isn't it strange that them being similar in speed Kratos would be hesitant and unsure if he can cross that distance fast enough?

" If Kratos, when pushed to the brink, cannot summon the strength he supposedly could casually wield beforehand, then he never actually had that strength." -what is he even talking about here?

The big bang question is not a leading question at all, it's literally in reference to the universe creation feat that happened in the game itself, it'd be a leading question if said material didn't exist anywhere else, which of course, is clearly not the case here.

The "cosmic feel" stuff is strictly about Uranus and Cronos's battle being of a cosmic scale similar to the Primordial War, it is merely another feat of similar scale to the Primordial war used to support the context and consistency of the nature of the feats.

The alternate dimension is literally just arguing for semantics at this point, won't bother with that either.

Time not existing in the war is completely irrelevant now, as timeless voids don't grant infinite speed, so we'll ignore that as well.

Mark Simon's comment does not in any way imply Zeus to be massively FTL, if anything, we can't even get a concrete number out of that other than just "unquantifiably FTL" without a calc, so that's a shit argument right out of the gate. Also, him being godly compared to the Redeemed Warriors would automatically make him faster anyway, power equates to not just physical strength, but speed as well, in GOW.

His responses to Claims 5 and 6 are bunk, Claim 6 especially more so, given that Nidhogg and Garmr now exist.

Claim 7 is just as BS, LITERALLY DOES NOT MATTER IF ARES CREATED IT OR NOT. Ares would still need to know what a galaxy looks like for him to even be able to BFR Kratos to such a place. That alone renders the entire refutation for this null and void. Number of stars here are also weirdly enough, completely low-balled, almost ignoring that there are stars even behind Kratos and that there is no free camera in the Greek games.

As for the Antikythera mechanism argument, unless you have proof that it functions differently than the IRL equivalent, don't make bullshit assumptions like this. This is literally the equivalent of arguing that fictional AR-15s may not operate the same way as the IRL AR-15.

"It's our moon as seen from an alternate dimension"- Wow, thanks for showing that it's a copy of our moon within said alternate dimension. Bravo.

"but the Greek world does not encapsulate all of it." is also unsurprisingly, grossly wrong as I have stated above.

His claim of "Tartarus" being vast rather than infinite is also grossly wrong as both WoG, the concept artist, the GOW Bonus Disc with the immeasurable statement (Which uses the same exact concept art as Cecil Kim's infinite distance statement which also is repeated in the GOW1 Prima Guidebook word-for-word, artwork for artwork), and the Tales of Helios Atlas and Persephone have shown us.

Hermes and Soul stuff? GOW3. That's all you need to know.

Also, what does Kratos not knowing about Hermes' job have to do with the speed feat not being legitimate?

Everything else beyond it is just cope about not being able to accept that Ascension rocketed GOW to the level it is today, and all further accusations of the tweets being "leading questions" are also equally disingenuous.

The dude claiming that "Thor’s battle with Jormungandr was “multiversal,” make little sense, because they explicitly clash with the basic story of the franchise in irreconcilable ways." is also incredibly false given everything we have been shown in the series so far.

The misleading statements argument is merely a lack of understanding of the existence of multiple forms of omnipresence that doesn't involve you being the entire universe physically or temporally.

The Gods have no reason to hyperbolize their details because there is absolutely no logical reason to do so for them. All of this dude's assumptions are pure headcanon. Using Kratos to defy their feats is merely him downplaying himself because he knows of the carnage that he caused across an entire Pantheon, plus it would completely demerit the existence of GOW2 and Kratos going through hell to gain back all of his powers so that he could kill Zeus once and for all.

Overall, terrible blog, shoddily written, countless falsehoods and blatant cherrypicking of the pieces of evidence presented to us, if not outright ignorance of them. There's a good reason why blogs like these don't amount to shit on our site anymore, and also why we have a rule against all of this.
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Smart yakuza you are
 
Artorimachi_Meteoraft said:
Smart yakuza you are
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I might've missed some parts here and there but I specifically covered the key note points of why the blog is horrendously wrong and filled with false claims and is in a complete lack of understanding of how our site standards work. I know of other people who can make better debunks than me and can end all of this in one-liners but until such a time comes, this should mostly do, for now.
 
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KLOL506 said:
I might've missed some parts here and there but I specifically covered the key note points of why the blog is horrendously wrong and filled with false claims and is in a complete lack of understanding of how our site standards work. I know of other people who can make better debunks than me and can end all of this in one-liners but until such a time comes, this should mostly do, for now.
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My teacher told me the story of Perseus yesterday
 
Honestly I should've read the Underworld section of that Google Docs a bit more clearly, and TBF, I can't tell if I should laugh or cry.

It has left me so ******* infuriated and left me laughing so hard, I don't think this dude doesn't even realize that he literally shot his own argument in the foot.

Arguing that infinite can be immeasurable, but also not, and then comparing the gap between 1 and 2 to be infinite, not even realizing that a number like 1.9999999999999999 is still measurable, and saying all of this only to realize none of this shit matters in the long run for the actual statements, blatantly shows that this dude is doing nothing but huffing and overdosing on Grade-A Copium at this point. That alone is enough reason for me to kick that document down the *******.

That argument is just one of the finest examples of peak battleboarding brainrot with a little bit of semantical infestation.
 
One last thing.

Notice how he says the following:

"and Hades would have ruled forever had Kratos not intervened. I believe that Cory Barlog, in calling it infinite, is referring to the length of time Hades would have ruled over it had Kratos not intervened. But we can also say that the underworld is infinite."

Man agreed to this and then went on to literally ignore the fact that if Hades intended to rule forever, an infinite-sized afterlife would also be necessary to support that influx of souls. Let alone ignoring the fact that Cory literally agreed that Cecil was indeed right about the infinite distance thing, notice how Cecil said "distance", not "period of time".
 
Just out of curiosity, ignoring the WoG, cosmology lore, etc., of the verse, purely based on the visual feats and gameplay shown, what would the characters' ratings be?
 
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Isn't atlas feat even below high 6a without Lore?
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Nah, him swinging his hammer with the mass of the Earth's crust I calculated to be 5-C. It'd be 6-A in the hands of the Redeemed Warrior, assuming we don't go with the High 3-A wank.
 
Pure visuals, it'd be 4-A. Failing even that, High 6-A and FTL would be the most consistent via the whole lifting of the Earth's landmasses by Atlas and swinging a hammer with that weight, Zeus' Titan decimating shockwave at the end of the Great War etc.
 
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