"So, we use character statements saying the Pillar holds the world, and assume that's magically all that the statements can extend to without extra statements being taken into account, and ignore the context behind them."
No, Kep. Please, enough with this strawman answer. We assume it only holds up the world because in the actual game it is all it is stated to do, and all that we see it do, and it is also all that it can logically do. It cannot hold up the universe when the universe predated the pillar's construction and it is also inside the universe.
It's just a matter of having common sense, which is something you need to throw out the window to seriously believe it literally holds up the universe.
"Persephone's goal is to destroy Earth and Olympus. She doesn't care about the Universe. Her goal is to destroy Earth. She makes a general statement regarding the pillar's scale which is contradicted by absolutely nothing."
That is wonderful, Persephone's goal is to destroy Earth, Olympus and the Underworld, and this is why she goes after the Pillar, to achieve her goal. Trying to dismiss her word when virtually all the information about the pillar is delivered by her is ridiculous, you are inventing that she is unreliable and hiding information just for the sake of rating Kratos as higher.
"Persephone states that the Pillar's destruction will lead to the world being reverted into Chaos - which is clarified by the novels to be the primordial void that preceded the creation of both the universe and the cosmos. This is a literal statement she makes regarding its true scale."
Wonderful, a blanket term being assumed to only be able to mean
one thing and one thing only, in this case a pre-universal void of nothingness. Despite the Chaos which we see the world return to at the end of God of War 3 only being High 6-A in scale.
Do you not realize how ludicrous this is? Persephone doesn't even bring up the word Chaos. You are just asserting it where it isn't, because it makes sense in your headcanon while there is no concrete proof in the actual game. "All will return to what it was before" isn't a feat. It's a blanket statement that contextually is only referring to the world and underworld. Not the whole universe.
"And finally, we have the Guidebook Entry on Atlas, which states he holds up the heavens/cosmos above his shoulders on God of War, which is literally contradicted by nothing."
Except... Literally everytime we see Atlas only holding up the flat Earth in the games themselves? Atlas holding up the heavens / cosmos comes from classic Greek Mythology about Atlas, which is not the case in God of War.
This is so obviously a case of misunderstanding among the writers of the guide, which shouldn't be taken as a primary canon source in the slightest here.
Atlas was punished by being chained in Tartarus with the other Titans, and only after Chains of Olympus he got put holding the world, thanks to Kratos too. There's no "holding up the cosmos as a burden" with Atlas. At all.
"The Underworld in its totality is stated by two different sources to be infinite in size - in God of War 1, one can even see stars in the background once the clouds pass. Saying "it isn't infinite' is just handwaving the evidence."
No, it is stated by an artist in a guidebook that he wanted to give a sensation of being "endless", by making it stretch beyond the horizon in the art. It isn't conclusive proof of being infinite in size at all. It is literally beneath the Earth.
And no, we don't see stars. That's literally a headcanon. We see vaguely discernible dots which are asserted to be stars despite the fact that they are beneath Kratos in the underworld. And even if that was the case it would scale to no one as the underworld would be destroyed by Earth crashing into it, not by universal collapse.
Helios' light is literally light from the sun. It doesn't move at Infinite Speed nor did it lit up the entire underworld in the way it is being described. This is less legit than the Pokémon feat about it illuminating the surface from the bottom of the ocean
"The dimension can be seen in the actual game, dude. The game itself tells us it's a statue of Nyx when you step into it, and it's clear that it's a Portal."
In the actual game we use a statue of Nyx to step through a portal, and enter someplace else. At
no point do we receive any conclusive indication that:
- This is another dimension
- This is another dimension specifically created by the Goddess Nyx
- It is a dimension with real stars and a real moon
All of that comes from Twitter Posts, and as such are not valid evidence for it. This is just the way it is. Trying to say it is in-game is the height of dishonesty.
