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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

How strong are regular Valkyries (so not Sigrun, Freya or Gna)? Are they close to as strong as Baldur was? Mimir does say he cannot think of a more formidable opponent than a Valkyrie when they come across one in 2018. Where does that put them?
 
MarcusTCicero said:
Stunned when? Is that in reference to him clashing his gauntlets together that one time? Also I feel like Kratos is always exerting effort in anything he does. He exerts effort even when overpowering gorgons in GOW 3, when executing Minotaurs, when pulling the heads off of Cerberus hounds, tearing off a Chimera's horn, grappling with a Satyr and so on. But we know these creatures are fodders and aren't even remotely close to early versions of Kratos let alone GOW 3 Kratos. In that same way surely it doesn't prove that Hercules scales to Kratos?
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It is also said that no mortal can hope to match a god, that was one of the main themes in the first GoW. Hercules is a mortal as revealed in GoW novel.

Yet he has some impressive feats.

As i said, Hercules is an enigma power scaling wise.
 
The Gods spent centuries growing their power from worship and battles, some like Hades drew power from billions of souls, Ares drew from war. Kratos needed to take the power of the greatest force in the universe to match the Gods.

Hercules? He's physically stronger than Hades and Poseidon because, I dunno, he fought a lion or something.
 
Poseidon and Hades went from needing to tag team the Titan Atlas to being capable of wiping out the Titans on their own. Zeus could already destroy the Titan race with his power alone. Kratos is a demigod that took back his godhood and had the power of the Sisters of Fate as well as the Titans within him.

Honestly, Hercules just built different.
 
Dust_Collector said:
The Gods spent centuries growing their power from worship and battles, some like Hades drew power from billions of souls, Ares drew from war. Kratos needed to take the power of the greatest force in the universe to match the Gods.

Hercules? He's physically stronger than Hades and Poseidon because, I dunno, he fought a lion or something.
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Yeah. Don't forget Deimos. The dude was literally imprisoned and tortured every day of his life since he was a kid. Somehow he is compareable to Kratos after he became a God and could duke it out with Thanatos for a while. No explanation.
 
CorneredHarbor said:
Yeah. Don't forget Deimos. The dude was literally imprisoned and tortured every day of his life since he was a kid. Somehow he is compareable to Kratos after he became a God and could duke it out with Thanatos for a while. No explanation.
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There was a theory out there that he served the gods like Kratos did.
 
BEASTHEART880 said:
He might end up getting upgraded in the future past that if we get more evidence for Tier 1 Tree of life.
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I doubt it very much, the primordial ones that precede all creation are not 1-C here or something like that, this Wiki each time lowers the characters, soon tier 1 characters will be extinct
 
Toby020 said:
I doubt it very much, the primordial ones that precede all creation are not 1-C here or something like that, this Wiki each time lowers the characters, soon tier 1 characters will be extinct
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It's very possible that the strands of the world tree in the Norse side of things completely transcends each one below it. We don't have any real evidence currently.

But we got that DM I posted a while back that could help if real. There's also an art book coming out soon that might have info
 
MarcusTCicero said:
Doesn't Kratos halt and overpower him more than once in the fight? I wouldn't see how Hercules would scale to Kratos' physical strength and even his legendary reputation wouldn't be enough to elevate him to Kratos' level surely?
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This is after Kratos has to struggle with him considerably. Hercules is able to easily stun Kratos with his blows, and once Hercules grabs him, Kratos has to put in considerable effort to break free.
 
Planck69 said:
I guess there comes a day in every demigod child of Zeus' life that they become That Guy.
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Well, Bruno has stated that Demigods are just next in line in the whole "Child kills Parent" cycle, so, yeah.
 
Toby020 said:
Because they transcend the entire multiverse, including time itself.
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They don't. Also, the word "transcends" in and out of itself is incredibly vague to boot. Existing before time itself doesn't imply existential superiority in any sense of the word.
 
BEASTHEART880 said:
No but I really wish we knew why Deimos was so strong.
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The Bonus Video for Ghost of Sparta actually explains why.

Decades of constant abuse and torture at the hands of Thanatos had pretty much driven Deimos over the edge, and by the time Kratos freed him, Deimos was basically only alive due to the sheer amount of rage that had been building up in him just due to the fact that he believed that Kratos had abandoned him.

If anyone could give a run for Kratos's money in terms of getting stronger with rage alone, it'd be Deimos.
 
KLOL506 said:
The Bonus Video for Ghost of Sparta actually explains why.

Decades of constant abuse and torture at the hands of Thanatos had pretty much driven Deimos over the edge, and by the time Kratos freed him, Deimos was basically only alive due to the sheer amount of rage that had been building up in him just due to the fact that he believed that Kratos had abandoned him.

If anyone could give a run for Kratos's money in terms of getting stronger with rage alone, it'd be Deimos.
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That's actually ******* busted.
 
Kratos and Deimos literally getting so angry that they can fight on par with the gods and even kill them, in the case of the latter. They're basically mini-Hulks lol.
 
It'd be cool if Atreus visits the Far East and meet's and learns from Hou Yi, a divine archer in Chinese mythology famous for shooting down 9 of the 10 Suns that once crossed the sky.
 
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