God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

[TheGod]

"acting more as a gateway than them literally hanging from it"

Bro has not played Ragnarok.

Well, I haven't either but at least I know the fact that pieces of Asgard literally fell from the world tree, and it's a big part of the post-game. That fact alone throws his shitty argument out the window. He also totally ignored the real celestial bodies and stars that are clearly visible in the realms and the realm between realms.

Kratos went on a boat from greece to Norse e.t.c.

 

[Planck69]

Kratos went on a boat from greece to Norse e.t.c.

Not even sure how this is an argument since Yggdrasil's nature shoots the argument that Creation is just 5-B in the head and dumps it in a garbage heap.

 

[Planck69]

I wonder what powers Tyr has. Shame he's a pacifist, really curious on what he could do.

It'd be pretty cool if he had magic spells and techniques from across the world due to his travels.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Yeah that would be cool. And imagine if he could teach some to Kratos

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

Man, they should bring back Nemesis Whip, that weapon was f***ing raw fast
No need to be the OG as Draupnir Spear is pretty similar to Arms Sparta

 

[Hellbeast]

Would be funny if Tyr just goes Super Saiyan

like could have soloed Thor if he wanted

 

[Planck69]

Would be funny if Tyr just goes Super Saiyan

like could have soloed Thor if he wanted

Tyr spamming every magic across several pantheons.

Also, we should probably add the names given by the Norns to Kratos' name section; Bane of Olympus, Destroyer of Fate and Cruel Striker.

 

[Chianli]

I know this is a joke, but I always find it hilarious when people bring up Kratos struggling against chests (something the devs actually admitted to being game mechanics), rocks and shit, as if he doesn't lift thousands or millions of tonne objects, smash buildings/boulders, etc even while suppressing his abilities. Or as if those objects aren't magic'd out to ****.

The thing people also forget is that 2018 Kratos can suppress his powers (including durability) a lot. Even after the Baldur fight, he's shown suppressing his regeneration.

Keep in mind, I'm also somewhat of a Low 2-C/2-C denier. But the lengths people will go to for 9-A Kratos are ludicrous. I've even seen people say he's 9-C just because his weakest post-Ares deal form broke down a door rather than splintering it with a kick.

It really feels aounds like these people have a grudge (or have spite) to the series even though it hasn't done anything to warrant so.

 

[ByAsura]

It's that and more, imo. At least from what I've been able to find.

I think half of them haven't really gone past GoW 1, 2, 3 and maybe 2018. They just hear something along the lines of 'Kratos can run the DMC Gauntlet with his pinky finger' and find any way to 'dethrone' Kratos.

Admittedly, I also haven't delved entirely into the full franchise (I've gone through the comics, the games, some of the novels and the Lost Pages), or personally played most of the games (part of Ascension, 1, 2 and some of 3 when I was younger).

 

[Hellbeast]

Tyr spamming every magic across several pantheons.

It’s all fun and games until the quiet dude is secretly the strongest Norse God, spamming the **** out of Runic, Greek and Sumerian Magics

Also, we should probably add the names given by the Norns to Kratos' name section; Bane of Olympus, Destroyer of Fate and Cruel Striker.

Funnily Cruel Striker is already there, is the translation of Farbauti from the original Norse

I’d also suggest adding Freya’s titles (such as Frigg of the Æsir). Though, speaking of Aesir gods, does Tyr have any actual statements?

 

[KLOL506]

Also, we should probably add the names given by the Norns to Kratos' name section; Bane of Olympus, Destroyer of Fate and Cruel Striker.

Would've been a breeze for me if the profile weren't locked due to the actions of a vandal turning the profile into Tier 1.

 

[ByAsura]

I could do it rn.

 

[Chianli]

Would've been a breeze for me if the profile weren't locked due to the actions of a vandal turning the profile into Tier 1.

Wait what?

 

[Planck69]

It’s all fun and games until the quiet dude is secretly the strongest Norse God, spamming the **** out of Runic, Greek and Sumerian Magics

Probably learnt some Xianxia BS from his travels too.

Funnily Cruel Striker is already there, is the translation of Farbauti from the original Norse

I’d also suggest adding Freya’s titles (such as Frigg of the Æsir). Though, speaking of Aesir gods, does Tyr have any actual statements?

None that come to mind. I doubt he'd be overwhelmingly weaker than the other Aesir but that's admittedly not the best for scaling.

 

[KLOL506]

I could do it rn.

Hopefully it remains unlocked for the foreseeable future. It'll be that much more of a breeze for me to correct grammatical errors or gallery fixes or missing boldings of abilities.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hopefully it remains unlocked for the foreseeable future. It'll be that much more of a breeze for me to correct grammatical errors or gallery fixes or missing boldings of abilities.

I thought tier 2 profiles have t stay locked?

 

[Planck69]

I honestly can't wait for the CRT, if only so that eye-watering Tier section gets abbreviated.

 

[KLOL506]

I thought tier 2 profiles have t stay locked?

Only the really controversial ones. Kratos hadn't been vandalized in like, eons, until that one single instance. Every other edit done to me by him was mostly for grammatical and aesthetic purposes like additions of higher quality image renders and somesuch.

Hell, even the DMC profiles as Tier 1 are now unlocked. Nobody bothers to vandalize them as much.

 

[ByAsura]

Kratos sees a Greek god.

Hopefully it remains unlocked for the foreseeable future. It'll be that much more of a breeze for me to correct grammatical errors or gallery fixes or missing boldings of abilities.

I'll be sure to fix some of it up. It's also been bugging me, but I'm busy. I usually tend to fix this kind of stuff up when I see it.

 

[CorneredHarbor]

No his weapon is stated to outright be able to kill Zeus and be one of the strongest weapons in Creation

So where would The Dark Rider scale?

 

[Planck69]

So where would The Dark Rider scale?

"Unknown, 2-C with the Spear of Destiny" maybe.

 

[KLOL506]

"Unknown, 2-C with the Spear of Destiny" maybe.

Really the only thing interesting about the Rider is his spear, which Kratos makes real short work of.

 

[KLOL506]

Speaking of the Spear, its Dura Neg properties, Explosion Inducement properties, its use as a rocket launcher, extensions and Crystal generation should be added in.

What ability is it to make Crystals?

 

[CorneredHarbor]

Speaking of the Spear, its Dura Neg properties, Explosion Inducement properties, its use as a rocket launcher, extensions and Crystal generation should be added in.

What ability is it to make Crystals?

Crystal manipulation.

 

[Planck69]

Also, I remember the Blade of Artemis being called one of "the most powerful weapons in creation" in the GoW 1 novel. On top of it being used to kill Titans during the Great War, feels weird that it's not relevant to any of Kratos' tiering.

 

[KLOL506]

Also, I remember the Blade of Artemis being called one of "the most powerful weapons in creation" in the GoW 1 novel. On top of it being used to kill Titans during the Great War, feels weird that it's not relevant to any of Kratos' tiering.

It's also stated to be stronger than the Blades of Chaos, further fitting the whole Olympian > Titan > Primordial scaling chain. It's the scan I posted a while back.

And Ares' armor is stated to be tougher still in Chapter 31, requiring Kratos to use Ares' own spider-arms to pierce through his armor. The only other blade strong enough to do this is the Blade of the Gods.

 

[Hellbeast]

And Ares' armor is stated to be tougher still in Chapter 31, requiring Kratos to use Ares' own spider-arms to pierce through his armor. The only other blade strong enough to do this is the Blade of the Gods.

Yeah I pointed this out as well, Kratos seems it near impenetrable otherwise and needs to either target gaps or use stronger stuff

Also, I remember the Blade of Artemis being called one of "the most powerful weapons in creation" in the GoW 1 novel. On top of it being used to kill Titans during the Great War, feels weird that it's not relevant to any of Kratos' tiering.

yep, Zeus mentions it so Kratos has God Tier weapons even back then. It’s worth noting the Blade is able to easily kill Wraiths so more NPI

 

[Sir_sun_man]

Also, I remember the Blade of Artemis being called one of "the most powerful weapons in creation" in the GoW 1 novel. On top of it being used to kill Titans during the Great War, feels weird that it's not relevant to any of Kratos' tiering.

The blade of Olympus nervously smoking in the corner of the room*

 

[CorneredHarbor]

2-C mortal Kratos?

I mean Hercules is considered a mortal yet still scales to the level of Gods. Deimos as well. It's not out of the question. And they are all sons of Zeus.

 

[Chianli]

2-C mortal Kratos?

I mean Hercules is considered a mortal yet still scales to the level of Gods. Deimos as well. It's not out of the question.

If ao that means the greek patheon could have conqured a;ll other pantheons if they could (in a way)

 

[Planck69]

2-C mortal Kratos?

I mean Hercules is considered a mortal yet still scales to the level of Gods. Deimos as well. It's not out of the question. And they are all sons of Zeus.

Eeeeeeh, I'd feel that'd lead to 2-C scaling going too far I think.

Probably just note the durability of the weapons, if they can be used in such a manner (its why I didn't give Bai Xiaochun Tier 1 durability via kitchen wok since he cant fully utilise it until way later).

 

[Sir_sun_man]

2-C mortal Kratos?

I mean Hercules is considered a mortal yet still scales to the level of Gods. Deimos as well. It's not out of the question. And they are all sons of Zeus.

not GoW1 kratos, every interaction he had with a god physically ended with him being ****** up(mainly ares chucking a chunk of rock at him causing insta death)

 

[KLOL506]

2-C Mortal Kratos ain't happening by any stretch whatsoever.

 

[Planck69]

I hope one day we go to Mesopotamia. I wanna fight Gilgamesh.

 

[CorneredHarbor]

2-C Mortal Kratos ain't happening by any stretch whatsoever.

I still think it is possible. He wouldn't scale to Olympians however. He'd probbably downscale from Primordials.

 

[Sir_sun_man]

I hope one day we go to Mesopotamia. I wanna fight Gilgamesh.

atreus would get his shit rocked by gilgamesh

 

[Planck69]

I still think it is possible. He wouldn't scale to Olympians however. He'd probbably downscale from Primordials.

Do I really need to tell you why mortal Kratos downscaling from the Primordials isn't a good idea.

 

[KLOL506]

I still think it is possible. He wouldn't scale to Olympians however. He'd probbably downscale from Primordials.

Hahahahahahahaha...

NO.

He wouldn't downscale from the Primordials. If we're talking solely outliers, Ascension alone would make him equal to, if not outright superior, to the Titans for fending off Hecatonchires (Hecatonchires is stated in an official interview to be stronger than the Titans, and Ariel Lawrence states him to be equal in strength to Atlas and slightly stronger than Cronos). But that's INSANELY PROBLEMATIC because in Chains of Olympus Kratos needed the Gauntlet of Zeus to re-chain a weakened Atlas (Who one-shotted Helios BTW who at this point has already been strengthened by thousands of years of empowerment from prayers and whatnot as Olympus grew) back to the Mortal World to make him lift it up (And by extension the entire Greek Pantheon) for all of eternity.

If Aegaeon isn't enough, we can immediately default to his other brother, Gyges, who easily overpowered early God Kratos even while having lost all of his arms (due to the Ambrosia race) and almost killed him.

 

[Planck69]

atreus would get his shit rocked by gilgamesh

Maybe he'll get gud as an adult. He's like what, 15 right now?

Honestly, I just wanna the Kratos analogues of all myths duke it out. Sun Wukong, Gilgamesh, Kratos, Thor etc.

 

[CorneredHarbor]

Hahahahahahahaha...

NO.

He wouldn't downscale from the Primordials. If we're talking solely outliers, Ascension alone would make him equal to, if not outright superior, to the Titans for fending off Hecatonchires (Hecatonchires is stated in an official interview to be stronger than the Titans, and Ariel Lawrence states him to be equal in strength to Atlas and slightly stronger than Cronos). But that's INSANELY PROBLEMATIC because in Chains of Olympus Kratos needed the Gauntlet of Zeus to re-chain a weakened Atlas (Who one-shotted Helios BTW who at this point has already been strengthened by thousands of years of empowerment from prayers and whatnot as Olympus grew) back to the Mortal World to make him lift it up (And by extension the entire Greek Pantheon) for all of eternity.

If Aegaeon isn't enough, we can immediately default to his other brother, Gyges, who easily overpowered early God Kratos even while having lost all of his arms (due to the Ambrosia race) and almost killed him.

I agree with this. The scaling chain would abdolutely break.

But what of Charon from Chains of Olympus?