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God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

KLOL506 said:
Doesn't it already have Probability Manip in small doses via runes and stuff?
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yeah....... hmmm i think it's too complicated to discuss it, right now. Let's wait GoW ragnarok, first....

but basically my main idea is,

light of alfheim = (1 = life , 0 = non life/death)

then fate of the world = ( 0 = great voids , 1= primordial force) but the problem is : because primordial forces precede light of alheim which is TD 1 would that means fate exist with more truth state ?not just simply 1 ??

now the complicated part is , there are infinite timelines, so would that means each timelines contain TD 1 (light of alheim) thus make each timelines exist in another state of truth ????? thus fuzzy logic exist in GoW??
 
Andika_CL_atmadja said:
yeah....... hmmm i think it's too complicated to discuss it, right now. Let's wait GoW ragnarok, first....

but basically my main idea is,

light of alfheim = (1 = life , 0 = non life/death)

then fate of the world = ( 0 = great voids , 1= primordial force) but the problem is : because primordial forces precede light of alheim which is TD 1 would that means fate exist with more truth state ?not just simply 1 ??

now the complicated part is , there are infinite timelines, so would that means each timelines contain TD 1 (light of alheim) thus make each timelines exist in another state of truth ????? thus fuzzy logic exist in GoW??
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correct me if i wrong so

Light of alheim : [1,0] TD 1
Fate : [primordials force: both [1,0] , voids: neither [1,0] ] TD 2
Yggdrassil : [both [primordials force, voids] TD 3
??

edit: oh no yggdrassil need one more truth state i think.... [neither [primordials force, voids]
 
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Speaking of Naruto V God of War, Imma make matches where the Haxless GOW characters fights extremely haxxed Naruto characters.

Obito beat hit so it's doable lmao
 
Andika_CL_atmadja said:
so.... how controversial the upcoming GoW CRT... ?
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Prolly quite a lot, given that the biggest thing it'll tackle is upgrading the tiers to straight up 2-C.

Then there's the following:

Kratos getting RE (Arguable the next most controversial topic after the tiering upgrades)

Self Sustenance Types 1, 2 and 3 for all the Gods and Cosmic Radiation Resistance

Colossal Range Upgrades

Acausality revisions for all the Gods plus Kratos and Sisters of Fate

The obvious additional feat for Death Manip resistance via having the seggs

Sirens get additional Sound Hax, Death Hax, Mind Manip Hax, Empathic Hax and Seggs Hax

Norse Kratos gets a couple of shit from his Greek self including his AD and RE

There are many more to come. We just need to scour through all the guidebooks, novels, artbooks, interviews and other bonus videos we may have potentially missed.
 
KLOL506 said:
Prolly quite a lot, given that the biggest thing it'll tackle is upgrading the tiers to straight up 2-C.
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Good. It's crammed the way it is, and honestly, for the Norse Gods, they have all 99% Tier 2 Feats, so I don't even get why they even have High 3-A and Low 2-C to begin with. And even then we still have the World tree shenanigans
KLOL506 said:
Norse Kratos gets a couple of shit from his Greek self including his AD and RE
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His AD is actually pretty OP. Wasn't Kratos Like 7-B for most of GOW 2, only to become 2-C all over again at the end. Or was that just Pandora's box?
KLOL506 said:
Sirens get additional Sound Hax, Death Hax, Mind Manip Hax, Empathic Hax and Seggs Hax
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Hopefully a profile for them can be made. God of war could use a lot more profiles actually
KLOL506 said:
There are many more to come. We just need to scour through all the guidebooks, novels, artbooks, interviews and other bonus videos we may have potentially missed.
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Yeah and I think there's still plenty of old promotional websites out there
 
KLOL506 said:
Prolly quite a lot, given that the biggest thing it'll tackle is upgrading the tiers to straight up 2-C.

Then there's the following:

Kratos getting RE (Arguable the next most controversial topic after the tiering upgrades)

Self Sustenance Types 1, 2 and 3 for all the Gods and Cosmic Radiation Resistance

Colossal Range Upgrades

Acausality revisions for all the Gods plus Kratos and Sisters of Fate

The obvious additional feat for Death Manip resistance via having the seggs

Sirens get additional Sound Hax, Death Hax, Mind Manip Hax, Empathic Hax and Seggs Hax

Norse Kratos gets a couple of shit from his Greek self including his AD and RE

There are many more to come. We just need to scour through all the guidebooks, novels, artbooks, interviews and other bonus videos we may have potentially missed.
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oh nice, btw do you think Norse CRT will get even more controversial in the future ?
 
BEASTHEART880 said:
Good. It's crammed the way it is, and honestly, for the Norse Gods, they have all 99% Tier 2 Feats, so I don't even get why they even have High 3-A and Low 2-C to begin with. And even then we still have the World tree shenanigans

His AD is actually pretty OP. Wasn't Kratos Like 7-B for most of GOW 2, only to become 2-C all over again at the end. Or was that just Pandora's box?
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No, Pandora's Box remained completely inactive up until the end of GoW3, Kratos only used a sliver of it in GoW1 and was still on the losing end against Ares until the Blade of the Gods popped up, and then Hope went dormant once again. Kratos got most of his power-ups from the Titans, especially Prometheus's ashes that give him Rage of the Titans, Rage of Cronos (He managed to hold back a weakened Atlas at this point) and Atlas Quake, with another amp on top to his Rage of the Titanswith Gaia's persuasion. Then he fights against Hades (Who at this point is massively stronger than his past self who ripped out Atlas's soul and power), he wins and rips out Hades' soul and all the other Souls Hades had within him (Which included Atlas's soul) which further amps him (He still needed the Claws to control them as per WoG), but even then a vicious beatdown on Zeus does nothing to stop him. Zeus is just that OP. Remember, this is the same Zeus that almost got shanked by the BoO and lost a tremendous amount of his powers but a short while in GOW3 and he's already in peak shape and nigh-instantaneously one-shots Gaia down into the chasm. His healing powers and AD is also insane. Remember, GOW2 Zeus is already massively superior to his past self from the Great War, and GOW3 Zeus just trumps that by several leagues.

And then Fear Zeus completely wrecked his Claws of Hades and he lost control over said souls (As well as all his other weapons and equipment save for the Boots of Hermes, Blade of Olympus and Blades of Exile), then Fear Zeus snapped his neck and Kratos unleashed Hope. Then Kratos kills Zeus, grows mortified over his actions and becomes consumed with incredible guilt, remorse and depression to the point where he tells Athena to **** off and commits sudoku with the Blade of Olympus, thus releasing Hope to the entire world and freeing mankind from the gods and giving them a fighting chance to survive without ever needing the gods, which also causes him to lose all his previous power-ups he had.

Now the only thing he has left is his brute strength that he used to kill Zeus. He has none of the hax or the insane power-ups he gained from his weapons. He's just an immortal demigod, albeit the strongest demigod one can think of, possibly even stronger than Hercules himself (His physical strength is actually impressive when you look at him being able to more easily overpower Kratos and even stagger him with his mere shockwaves alone, Kratos genuinely had trouble against him in a straight up grudge match and he was the only other relative whom Kratos called brother, other than his actual brother Deimos).

But even in Norse his AD and RE are still ridiculously off the charts. His first fight with Baldur whom he claims is the strongest foe he's faced in a long while since his fall from godhood (Mostly because of Baldur's regenerative curse powers), Kratos is holding back immensely and not even trying and he gets rightfully floored by Baldur, then Kratos slowly starts to put in a little effort at the roof, but then gets promptly smacked into a rock and is stuck, but the moment Baldur says he's gonna start tearing the house apart to find what he's looking for, Kratos gives in to his rage, claws his way out of the rock and within seconds he completely turns the table around and floors Baldur incredibly hard to the point where Baldur has a hard time standing up or even being able to use his head right until the regen kicks in. Baldur only manages to do anything sensible when Kratos tries to control his range, but when Kratos gives in, Baldur is hopelessly outgunned and outmatched in every single way imaginable.

TL;DR: Power Creep in God of War is ******* insane.

BEASTHEART880 said:
Hopefully a profile for them can be made. God of war could use a lot more profiles actually
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Yeah, hope so too. DMC already has a bunch of profiles for the fodder demons with cool hax.
 
There's also the fact that Kratos would get literally all of Hades's abilities with the Claws of Hades since... well... he stole Hades's souls and has control over the billions of other souls that Hades absorbed into himself over the last thousand years since the Great War.
 
BEASTHEART880 said:
That's going to be a pain in the ass to add I bet
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Nah, that's not the problem, because if we tried that shit would get redundant pretty ******* fast. Thing is, Kratos already has a lot of abilities via his own feats that Hades has, while also in conjunction having Hades's abilities for himself, besides Biological Manip and some other one or two extras.

Normally a "everything else Hades has" would solve the problem, it certainly works for Kratos having all of Ares's abilities, should work for having Hades's abilties too, but then there's the added controversy and all that.
 
KLOL506 said:
There's also the fact that Kratos would get literally all of Hades's abilities with the Claws of Hades since... well... he stole Hades's souls and has control over the billions of other souls that Hades absorbed into himself over the last thousand years since the Great War.
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Considering Hades had Atlas' soul should he get his Abillities? Altough Atlas' profile as of now is pretty much non-existant.
 
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CorneredHarbor said:
Considering Hades had Atlas' should he get his Abillities? Altough Atlas' profile as of now is pretty much non-existant.
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Not sure Atlas even has anything worth adding over to Hades that Hades himself can't do. At best Atlas would just get immunity to Soul Manip because dude's literally standing there and has no soul anymore because Hades ripped it out, and then there's him having resistance to Pain Manip and Extreme Heat because his inside innards are literally flowing with molten hot lava and his flesh chunks are cut the **** up all over the damn place including bone in his shoulder and prolly in his organs as well, which would give him Immortality Type 2 as well because he clearly no longer needs his organs or food or anything else to survive anymore, like most other Titans.
 
KLOL506 said:
Not sure Atlas even has anything worth adding over to Hades that Hades himself can't do. At best Atlas would just get immunity to Soul Manip because dude's literally standing there and has no soul anymore because Hades ripped it out, and then there's him having resistance to Pain Manip and Extreme Heat because his inside innards are literally flowing with molten hot lava and his flesh chunks are cut the **** up all over the damn place including bone in his shoulder and prolly in his organs as well, which would give him Immortality Type 2 as well because he clearly no longer needs his organs or food or anything else to survive anymore, like most other Titans.
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If the resistances carry over Hades should get resistance to deconstruction since Atlas was able to take a fully charged electric attack from Poseidon.
 
CorneredHarbor said:
If the resistances carry over Hades should get resistance to deconstruction since Atlas was able to take a fully charged electric attack from Poseidon.
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And that's another simple addition I suppose. But yeah, Atlas really doesn't have much for himself TBF.
 
The funny thing about Soul Hax in GOW is, they actually require a degree of sheer physical strength to overcome, including having the strength to overcome and overpower whoever is stealing your soul in the first place.
 
BEASTHEART880 said:
Hopefully a profile for them can be made. God of war could use a lot more profiles actually
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I think it would be good to make one profile for all the monsters. There are a couple of pages like that on the wiki, like Necromorphs from Dead Space series, Angels of Paradiso and Infernal Demons from Bayonetta, Gohma from Asura's Wrath and more. They all consist of a large variety of beings.
 
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