God of War: Ragnarok Discussion Thread

[Hellbeast]

So, anyone have that post with the powers of Bifrost Energy? I think Heimdall would get most if not all of it considering how adept he is at it.

Odin too

COPE, SEETHE, MALD AND DILATE

Eat dick

I mean, the Higher Existence originated in GOW3 so IDK who else you could give credit to.

Anyone else because the Higher Plane is > Greece

I guess so.

This would likely extend to Baldur and Odin as well as anyone else who survives blows from these weapons unscathed

Yeah I love the maxed out 2018 weapons. Ragnarok is, meh. Looked better in 2018. Looks like the Axe got smaller, too.

Shit is cold what do you expect

And Thor's page is really ******* dry. He doesn't have much Hax, but he does need new stuff.

Agreed, dude might need a lot of work

Like rage power/statistic amplification

And instinctive reaction since his whole thing is not thinking

Maybe Time manipulation/BFR

Funnily he had “Limited Space Time Manipulation” and BFR once but idk why I got removed

Paralysis Inducement?

yep, he paralyses Kratos in Boss 1 and prolly gets Mid-Low Healing if he doesn’t already have it. He’d also get Ice Resistance for Leviathan and Thamur’s death

might be something good in this

chews popcorn
Give me the Thor > Zeus meta

also Ares is > Poseidon and Hades

 

[Chianli]

So that "father like son" is even MORE accurate

 

[Dienomite22]

Eric mentions there is a reason why Tyr does his poses in all the realms in reference to future games

 

[Dienomite22]

When you first get to Svartlfheim, the dwarf that spits over the bridge is Odin. You can see the dwarf in the prison where Tyr was with slightly different clothes.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

So apperently Sonic Frontiers outsells GoW:R, crazy to say

 

[Planck69]

It is pretty popular in Japan. Same with Pokemon Scarlet and Violet.

 

[Arthex]

I have a question. When questioned by mimir, Kratos says he cannot get back his Greece magic anymore, which implies that all greece magic was destroyed when Greece was destroyed, htf do Blades of Chaos still work then? Their magic is also from greece, no?

 

[Planck69]

I have a question. When questioned by mimir, Kratos says he cannot get back his Greece magic anymore, which implies that all greece magic was destroyed when Greece was destroyed, htf do Blades of Chaos still work then? Their magic is also from greece, no?

Perhaps the Primordial Fire within them can sustain itself independently of the magic of a land.

 

[Arthex]

Perhaps the Primordial Fire within them can sustain itself independently of the magic of a land.

Well, it worked in the case of surtr, So is there a explanation for it or are Primordial things just universal or something?

Ugh, its confusing, I am not even sure what the Primordial Fire is.

 

[Dienomite22]

might be something good in this

Nothing really important to note besides little details I guess.

Some other things Eric mentioned:
Heimdall pretty much sees a person's mind/intention. He wasn't making things up when he told Atreus about what he sees in him on the gondola when he first got to Asgard.

The Draupnir spear can create infinite copies of itself.

The people in Odin's prison that fell from Asgard are all people who he disguised himself as

Cory Barlog was tired and didn't want to another game and asked Eric to do it and after about a year of convincing Eric accepted the offer.

One of the reasons Mjlnoir isn't usable is that it was expected and was too easy of a guess.

 

[Dienomite22]

Hey, look, another interview. Let's see what it has.

 

[Hellbeast]

Hey, look, another interview. Let's see what it has.

deets

 

[Aetheric Pariah]

yep, he paralyses Kratos in Boss 1 and prolly gets Mid-Low Healing if he doesn’t already have it. He’d also get Ice Resistance for Leviathan and Thamur’s death

Thor has 0 healing or regen. he never regened from any of kratos's attacks, so he'd just get supernatural willpower and type 2 immortality.

chews popcorn
Give me the Thor > Zeus meta

also Ares is > Poseidon and Hades

Unfounded Gay

 

[Hellbeast]

Thor has 0 healing or regen. he never regened from any of kratos's attacks, so he'd just get supernatural willpower and type 2 immortality.

Unfounded Gay

1) So we gonna ignore him getting stabbed through the chest with the spear and regening? 2) He's Greek what do you expect

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Funnily he had “Limited Space Time Manipulation” and BFR once but idk why I got removed

Yeah, because he sent the serpent back in time, but only because they both splintered the Yggdrasil, not because of an innate ability. However, in Ragnarok, it didn't look like the tree was splintered and Thor kinda did it on his own

I have a question. When questioned by mimir, Kratos says he cannot get back his Greece magic anymore, which implies that all greece magic was destroyed when Greece was destroyed, htf do Blades of Chaos still work then? Their magic is also from greece, no?

He released all his powers in GOW3 and left the blade of Olympus that contained them behind.

Thor has 0 healing or regen. he never regened from any of kratos's attacks, so he'd just get supernatural willpower and type 2 immortality

1) So we gonna ignore him getting stabbed through the chest with the spear and regening?

Jormugandr's poison

 

[Dienomite22]

Hey, look, another interview. Let's see what it has.

I'll get to this sometime tomorrow if someone else doesn't

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Will atreus accept it tho

She's pretty much his mom at this point, so why not?

 

[Dienomite22]

Hey, look, another interview. Let's see what it has.

One thing I will mention is that Cory Barlog was apparently pretty hands-off for Ragnarok besides a few things here and there and saying the game must have 3 things.
1. Ragnarok
2. Atreus leaving at the end
3. Brok's death

 

[Hellbeast]

Also before anyone questions my take on Thor, point out the gaping wounds sustained from this, and this

 

[Peak]

One thing I will mention is that Cory Barlog was apparently pretty hands-off for Ragnarok besides a few things here and there and saying the game must have 3 things.
1. Ragnarok
2. Atreus leaving at the end
3. Brok's death

damn killed Brok

 

[Peak]

Also before anyone questions my take on Thor, point out the gaping wounds sustained from this, and this

Yes, the stomach wound was also not regenerated because of the ax poison that Jormungandr passed when she swallowed the axe, it was mentioned in GOW if I'm not mistaken

 

[Arthex]

Is hope more powerful than anything in the Gow franchise? then i wonder, how Athens controlled it.

 

[Dienomite22]

I lied. Kratos did die against Thor. According to Eric Mjlnoir has a unique ability in the myth to bring goats back to life and they wanted to nod to that by having Thor use it to bring Kratos back to life.

 

[Planck69]

I mean, it doesn't change much about scaling but that's a neat feature.

 

[Hellbeast]

Yes, the chest wound was also not regenerated because of the ax poison that Jormungandr passed when she swallowed the axe, it was mentioned in GOW if I'm not mistaken

Like there's gotta be something there, IDK maybe check with the devs. It's worth noting it seemingly stopped Magni from returning to Valhalla which is wild

Is hope more powerful than anything in the Gow franchise? then i wonder, how Athens controlled it.

Yes and she didn't, she simply summoned it

I lied. Kratos did die against Thor. According to Eric Mjlnoir has a unique ability in the myth to bring goats back to life and they wanted to nod to that by having Thor use it to bring Kratos back to life.

Resurrection for Thor and some nice scaling let's go. He also banged up the Guardian shield pretty good

 

[Dienomite22]

Forgot to mention this about the first Ragnarok interview I posted but Eric wanted to note that when Kratos finally hits Heimdall with his fist, the Draupnir ring is what's scrapes Heimdall.

 

[Kisaragi_Megumi]

He also banged up the Guardian shield pretty goo

 

[GilverTheProtoAngelo]

I lied. Kratos did die against Thor. According to Eric Mjlnoir has a unique ability in the myth to bring goats back to life and they wanted to nod to that by having Thor use it to bring Kratos back to life.

Only as long as no bone is damaged.

The original fable tells that Thor used to lend his goats to a family as a rent to stay in their house. They were allowed to eat flesh off of the goat as long as they didn't damage the bones.... That way Thor could keep resurrecting the goats.
One day the family damaged the hip bone of a goat by mistake. The goat was ressurected crippled. Then Thor took the children from the family as servants as punishment.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

One of the reasons Mjlnoir isn't usable is that it was expected and was too easy of a guess

What a completely ridiculous reason for not getting it. Predictability isnt a bad thing as long as it's done well.

 

[Planck69]

Personally, I'm not losing much sleep over not getting Mjolnir. I find the weapon selection fine as it is. Still, not even a section of the fight where they switch weapons ;-; ?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Bruh I swear that would have been the rawest shit ever.

 

[Planck69]

Both Thor fights are in my Top 10 fights of the series but one thing I kinda wish was that they emphasized the collateral damage and physical strength showings like they did with Baldur. That fight was something else in that regard.

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

Yeah Baldur was higher scale.

And funny enough it was supposed to be even higher as Baldur was supposed to throw a whole mountain at Kratos, and Kratos was supposed to knock it in half.

The Baldur fight always gives me Man of Steel vibes. This one should have really used the power of Next gen consoles, and have Kratos and Thor Shattering Mountains, and like mentioned here earlier, breaking the bounds of space and time and knocking each other through the Nine realms.

Odin wasn't bad either, just kinda underwhelming.

 

[KingTempest]

Kratos jumped off of a ******* cliff onto a city block long dragon thousands of feet below the cliff to punch Baldur in the face a few times
He stayed in the same building wide space for a ******* war between the 2 strongest Aesir


Ragnarok could've done better

 

[Planck69]

Still, next game will be fully next gen so I'm excited to see what high scale fights we'll have.

 

[KingTempest]

If I don't see Kratos wrestling Horus in the middle of a pyramid then imma be absolutely pissed

 

[Hellbeast]

Yeah Baldur was higher scale.

And funny enough it was supposed to be even higher as Baldur was supposed to throw a whole mountain at Kratos, and Kratos was supposed to knock it in half.

The Baldur fight always gives me Man of Steel vibes. This one should have really used the power of Next gen consoles, and have Kratos and Thor Shattering Mountains, and like mentioned here earlier, breaking the bounds of space and time and knocking each other through the Nine realms.

Odin wasn't bad either, just kinda underwhelming.

Yeah I wish we got some of that, show me Kratos and Thor making realm tears

seriously it jams, check out the first fight

Forgot to mention this about the first Ragnarok interview I posted but Eric wanted to note that when Kratos finally hits Heimdall with his fist, the Draupnir ring is what's scrapes Heimdall.

huh funny

If I don't see Kratos wrestling Horus in the middle of a pyramid then imma be absolutely pissed

honestly Kratos vs Set would go hard as **** considering the Egyptians are like 10 feet tall

also should we make an optional equipment tab and how do we split it up? Imo it should be 2018 and Ragnarok and further broken down into Talismans, Pommels, Armours etc

 

[Hellbeast]

Yeah probably

Also cool thing I noticed about all the people who died when Thor and Faye clashed, when their souls got split their memories was got ****** up a little bit and they can't remember the proper details of the day they died until you fix their split souls, tying back to the whole thing about mind being one of the parts of the soul

Memrory Manipulation

also how do we feel about adding NPI and Limited Space Time Manipulation + BFR to Thor?

 

[BEASTHEART8800]

It's also underwhelming how some gods were underutilized, like Vidar. In Norse mythology he's the God of Vengeance, silence and..... footwear. Yeah.

Anyway his entire reason for existing is to avenge Odin's death, and he Kills Fenrir, and later survives Ragnarok. And what I've heard he's also way stronger than Thor and Odin.

In Ragnarok, he's just some dude sitting on a bench.

He could have been an after game boss, like Sigrun, and is hunting us down for killing Odin.

And also where are the other gods? Where's Njord? Would have been cool to seem him interact with Kratos, and repair his relationship with Freya. Maybe that could be DLC, I guess

 

[Dienomite22]

I'll get to this sometime tomorrow if someone else doesn't

Finished this one. Nothing much to note besides Eric's demeanor made it seem like DLC was never a thought that crossed SMS's mind.

Other things:
Eric mentioned he would love it if Santa Monica is able to make a Castlevania game. Don't take this as it's gonna happen or in the process of happening he's just speaking as a big fan of Castlevania.

Eric says he knows who blows the horn but you have to ask Cory Barlog for the answer

Eric is unsure if PlayStation all stars, Kratos in soul caliber, and shovel knight are canon.