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God of War: Norse Pantheon Revisions

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> The Valks are pretty fast though, with the whole being able to travel to all the realms at once to take the dead away.

They use the Bifrost to perform that feat according to the official promotional site. Otherwise it'd be a ******* good speed feat.
 
Okay, now this is all said and done, time to find out how high into 4-A Papa Kratos is XD
 
He's At least 4-A, likely 2-C now.

All that's left now is to find out how high into 4-A Kratos is. The experts are saying 1.25 ExaFOE.
 
Kepekley23 said:
> The Valks are pretty fast though, with the whole being able to travel to all the realms at once to take the dead away.
They use the Bifrost to perform that feat according to the official promotional site. Otherwise it'd be a ******* good speed feat.
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just curious how fast when using bifrost ?
 
wait bifrost can be used to travel different realm but doesn't have a speed ? How does it work ? kinda confused right here.
 
Kepekley23 said:
> The Valks are pretty fast though, with the whole being able to travel to all the realms at once to take the dead away.
They use the Bifrost to perform that feat according to the official promotional site. Otherwise it'd be a ******* good speed feat.
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Kep, for the Valks thing, aren't they still fast enough to go to all the people really quickly though, the Bifrost just lets them go to each realm quicker, but they'd still have to be fast to go to that many poins of conflict in a short amount of time.
 
@Assaltwaffle

The speed feat is that they are able to instantly collect the soul of every person who dies throughout the realms, at pretty much the exact same time without missing their schedule. For example, Alfheim is inhabited by elves and Midgard is inhabited by normal humans. If an elf and a human die at the same time, they will be there to collect both of them.

They use the Bifrost to travel between the realms themselves, but overall I'm still pretty sure it'd be a stupidly fast speed feat, hard to quantify however
 
Yeah I know it's hard to quantify, was merely stating that it happened, although couldn't the amount of people dying a second just be used for all nine realms, or would that be assuming too much about each realm, that would be a lowball anyway though since they go to each point of conflict not just deaths, but still it could be hard to quantify.
 
> They use the Bifrost to travel between the realms themselves

I think you are misinterpreting that WoG statement.

"We were told that when Kratos and Atreus use the Bifrost, it's very physical, and they're still learning it. The Valkyires, though, have mastered it, and that's why you see them use a variety of weapons so quickly, so when you see them in combat you'll see they come down with clubs or projectile weapons with a sickle flawlessly"

"The Valkyries' unique usage of the Bifrost in this way was important to the rest of their design as it would dictate what toolkit was used. Raf mentioned, "That was something we really tried to play into with the design as well…how we were going to utilize the Bifrost, which was being designed at the same time that these characters were being created. Even the weapons could be materialized and pulled from different realms. All of this was being played into, the combat designers and us - working closely with them to make the characters.'"

This isn't saying the Valkyries use the Bifrost to travel between the realms. It is saying that they use it to conjure weapons out of thin air for them to use. They do indeed travel to other realms/timelines via their sheer speed. As stated by the Lost Podcast, as soon as the warrios take their last breath the Valkyries are there.
 
A few things I want to ask/note :

  • I still firmly believe we should put Atreus as " At least 4-A, possibly 2-C ". Even doing minute damage to entities on those levels should make him scale due to the impossibly big gaps in the tiers. Like a Low 2-C cannot damage a 2-C unless they are on the level. Same with a 4-B fighting a 4-A
  • Scaling the Blades of Chaos will literally give people more incentive to upgrade the previous version of Kratos to 2-C ... Which while a few feats exist you guys agreed not to do... But make it possible to imply he could scale to it ?
 
Isn't it far safer to assume the Valkyries can..y'know, teleport instead of going with the highest possible interpretation?
 
I tried to apply unspecified means to what the characters said?

What is stated regarding the Valkyries is that they travel to warriors in their last breath and that they are always on the scene instantaneously whenever there is a war or a conflict, "sussing" the worthy spirits out.
 
I strongly disagree with Atreus scaling in any shape or form. He always gets stomped by characters on that level. We never scale to stomps.

The Blades of Chaos' power changes to suit the wielder's, as shown by the fact that they change to High 6-A once Kratos gets amped by Pandora's Box.
 
We have scaled people who are somewhat comparable to the one they are stomped by a few times before. DBZ (especially Toei) is a good example of this fact.

Okay then... Won't argue that then.
 
Interesting considering people happily scaled Atreus to Kratos High 6-A and called him equal to Kratos beofre it was 2-C.

Also Prime Kratos makes no sense now with Norse Kratos being stronger, you're treating them as if they're completely seperate entities. They're even using the same weapon (Blades of Chaos) which is used as one of the justifications for 2-C lol.
 
I hadn't even played the game yet when Atreus, Thor and the World Serpent's profiles were made. I was relying on the judgement of some people who legitimately wanted the verse to be 8-C then.

Except the Blades of Chaos adjust based on the strength of the wielder as shown when it adjusted to Kratos's amp facing off Ares. It's even quite stated in the original GoW novels to have the essence of the literal primordial, cosmic void of Chaos which birthed the Primordials, so we know it should easily be able to adjust to cosmic levels without a NLF if the wielder is strong enough.
 
@Kep

> Isn't it far safer to assume the Valkyries can..y'know, teleport instead of going with the highest possible interpretation?

That's untrue, the statements do explicitly imply the highest interpretation as opposed to the normal assumption that they can teleport.

The Lost Podcasts describe a warrior in the GoW world being escorted by a Valkyrie, and it explicitly describes the Valkyrie as "approaching him from afar" in his peaceful slumber and "escorting him away", this clearly implies physical movement as opposed to teleportation.
 
How can it be an outlier when there are literally no other high-end speed feats to scale from, only that one lore feat? Our own speed rating is via scaling because there are literally no speed feats in the new game that are legitimate and good high-end feats, aside from lolworthy "walking normally" assumptions.
 
Also, I have lots of proof regarding the Greek Pantheon scaling and they have their own abstract speed feats, like the Underworld Illumination feat and the Primordials' feat of fighting on a timeless void - that would make three feats on that scale with the Valkyries thrown in, which is a lot more than you can say for the vast majority of verses, which are scaled from just one feat. I'm going to contact neutral staff members just to see their opinion over Discord.
 
since the purpose of this thread is already done. I think it's best to lock this thread. Also for speed feat part feel free to make another thread.
 
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