Glass Cannon Showdown: Oracle vs Heaven Ascension DIO

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Let's not forget about his causality manipulation, DIO says ZA WARUDO! but instead of stopping time it just makes a dubstep fart noise. Without stopping time.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oracle can disrupt Dios connection to the World as well yes

 

[Standuser081]

Yes, he does. Just like he did to Kakyoin and Joseph.

Wrong Dio

HA DIO is jusr OG DIO with Reality Warping powers.

 

[Standuser081]

Let's not forget about his causality manipulation, DIO says ZA WARUDO! but instead of stopping time it just makes a dubstep fart noise. Without stopping time.

I'm pretty sure that 2-A Reality Overwrite > 2-A Causality Manipulation

 

[WeeklyBattles]

No, HA Dio is exponentially more cocky due to thinking his godly powers are invincible

 

[WeeklyBattles]

I'm pretty sure that 2-A Reality Overwrite > 2-A Causality Manipulation

Not when the 2 -A causality manip prevents the overwrite from happening

 

[Standuser081]

No, as soon as he learned that Valentine was gonna betray him, he immediately erased him from all universes. Heck, he even made sure that Giorno couldn't use GER anymore. The only time he ever got cocky was whenever he faced off against the Joestars.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah, those are things he did after the fact, he literally let the protagonists of the game attack him all at once in the initial encounter because he wanted to mock them with how powerful he was

Plus oracle can causality manip him into being cocky

 

[Standuser081]

Yeah, because they're Joestars.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Oracle losing is just one of the many outcomes, another Oracle in another universe will see that and he's going to do something about it.

Go ahead, Mr. Jahsturr.

Seriously, is anyone going to debunk this?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

And Oracle can manip him to be that cocky towards him too

 

[Standuser081]

Oracle losing is just one of the many outcomes, another Oracle in another universe will see that and he's going to do something about it.

Go ahead, Mr. Jahsturr.

Seriously, is anyone going to debunk this?

That's outside help.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

How exactly is it outside help? There are a lot of characters who use alternate reality versions of th em selves in combat.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

It's not anymore outside help than type 8 reliant on living beings or power bestowal/blessings by gods.


Especialy as it's tecnically the same character

 

[Standuser081]

I just realized, once DIO erases Oracle, every single version of him from every universe will be erased as well.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

>Once Dio erases Oracle

You mean the thing he'll never get the chance to do?

 

[Standuser081]

DIO still stops time.

 

[Genericstickman]

DIO doesn't start with Time Stop

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dio doesnt start with time stop and again, causalityl manip to not happen or just disrupt his connection to the World to prevent it

 

[Standuser081]

Again, causality manip to not happen or just disrupt his connection to the World to prevent it

Oracle needs to precog first.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Hed have more than enough time as dio doesnt lead with timestop

 

[Genericstickman]

HAD can possibly Power Nulify Oracle with Reality Override like he didn't with the infinite rotation and GER

But will that help him with Precog to Causality? Probably not since it's only 3-A Power Nullification (probably would've helped him with the fight against Hit)

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Let me explain why Oracle wins here:

HA DIO never leads with stopping time, and since this isn't bloodlusted, he shouldn't. I have never seen him use time stop ability at first even against Funny Valentine. DIO offered him loyalty to DIO but Valentine refused, so he killed him for that. There isn't going to be a second chance for Oracle, if HA DIO actually defeats him, he will be impressed by his powers just like what he did to Funny Valentine and offer him loyalty. HA DIO needs powerful minions and Oracle isn't going to be one and he's going to take advantage of that and kill him right there. Reality Overwrite is transferred through his fists, courtesy of besto Jotaro. Oracle can use his Fate's Edict to prevent him from attacking, although HA DIO gains spell immunity which isn't a problem for Oracle's fate manipulation.

 

[Standuser081]

Actually, HA DIO has shown feats of overwriting things without the use of his hands.

https://imgur.com/Pjqvt0v

https://imgur.com/1M1KpVc

https://imgur.com/idzYBL

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

If I recall correctly, he actually did hit Valentine, the game just didn't show it. Hell, he even says "This is...The World Over Heaven" which implies that he used his Stand. There's no way he could've done that without using his fists. Like what Jotaro said, he can only use this power with his fists.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

The first clip is done after he punches Valentine and the second is him just teleporting

 

[Standuser081]

And the third one shows him wiping the entire city of Cairo away.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

After making contact with it yes

 

[Standuser081]

You can't just wipe an entire city away with one touch. Nevertheless, I'm making a CRT for this.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Grace has ended, it has been one day since I started it. Someone add this to their profiles.