Glass Cannon Showdown: Oracle vs Heaven Ascension DIO

[Ricsi-viragosi]

There was a thread to have it removed though?

 

[Standuser081]

Wouldn't mind destruction be faster than that?

Why?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Acausality kind of covers the paradox thing thought.

Acausality was removed

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Acausality kind of covers the paradox thing thought.

Acausality was removed

It's still on his profile.

Can you unlock it?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Fixed

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Gone with a snap.

 

[Genericstickman]

Technically HAD doesn't start with timestop

He does start with reality Override or Mind and Soul hax though

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Again, all of which Oracle can see and react to accordingly

 

[Standuser081]

Nope. If he really wants to go for the kill, he stops time.

 

[DMB_1]

This seems inconclusive to me.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

@Stand Oracle would causality manip dio into not going for the kill

 

[DMB_1]

In stopped time?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Dio does not lead with time stop instantly in character, he's too cocky for that

 

[Yobo_Blue]

Wrong DIO

 

[Standuser081]

The only times DIO ever gets cocky is when the Joestars are involved. Other than that he always goes for the kill.

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Oracle turns himself into Jotaro LUL

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oracle can technically summon the hand jotaro used to kill dio at the end of the game, it wouldn't be the first time he summoned something like that

 

[Standuser081]

And how exactly would Oracle know that?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

2-A precognition

 

[Standuser081]

No, I mean how would Oracle know that he would need that specific hand.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Weekyl meant that too. It can see infinite outcomes of infinite acions.

 

[DragonEmperor23]

2-A means multiversal right? Why would that explain what the precog can do besides the range? Precognition is seeing the future but the hand thing with Jotaro would be in the past.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

2-A precog means that it can see every possible outcome, no matter how unlikely.

 

[Standuser081]

Ok, but he'd need to have DIO come in contact with it. Which I'm pretty sure isn't happenning in stopped time.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oracle can see an infinite number of universes in which he performs an infinite number of actions, he knows exactly what will and wont work on dio the second he looks at him

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Ok, but he'd need to have DIO come in contact with it. Which I'm pretty sure isn't happenning in stopped time.

The hand is just one option, oracle himself is able to beat dio without it

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Even the actions that require information that he wouldn't know?

 

[Standuser081]

Oracle can see an infinite number of universes in which he performs an infinite number of actions, he knows exactly what will and wont work on dio the second he looks at him

Basically what's gonna happen.

Oracle sees the future.

Tries to act but he can't, because time is already stopped.

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

Even the actions that require information that he wouldn't know?

It would show it summoning stuff it would never summon like a nuke or something that kills it.


or a reality where dio just tells it that, because OOC doesn't mean that it's impposible

 

[DragonEmperor23]

Can he summon something that he doesn't know what it is? If he saw the hand, what makes that hand different from any other hand?

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

or a reality where dio just tells it that, because OOC doesn't mean that it's impposible

 

[DragonEmperor23]

OOC means out of character. So you're saying that Dio doing something Dio wouldn't do isn't impossible.

 

[Standuser081]

Yeah, no matter what action Oracle plans to do, it ain't happenning in stopped time.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Oracle can causality manip dio into not stopping time at all and telling oracle exactly how to beat him if oracle wants

 

[Ricsi-viragosi]

OOC means out of character. So you're saying that Dio doing something Dio wouldn't do isn't impossible.

Do I have to Explain why in infinite alternate realities there can be dio's with different personalities?

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yeah, no matter what action Oracle plans to do, it ain't happenning in stopped time.

HA Dio does not lead instantly with time stop, i dont know where youre getting this idea from

 

[Ecstasy_Amphetamine]

Oracle losing is just one of the many outcomes, another Oracle in another universe will see that and he's going to do something about it.

 

[Standuser081]

Yes, he does. Just like he did to Kakyoin and Joseph.

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Xtasyamphetamine is correct, oracle can see every single way dio can possibly kill him and will know to prevent it

 

[WeeklyBattles]

Yes, he does. Just like he did to Kakyoin and Joseph.

Wrong Dio