Gii Crimson vs Yhwach

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

Can somebody sum up how crimson wins?

King Crimson copies.

Could be queen though :^) after all, the dude doesnt has an actual gender, like our Slime Lord

But both of them are heavier on the "male" side and Rimul is officially the "king" of Tempest tho :^)

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

Can somebody sum up how crimson wins?

King Crimson copies.

If he does...then what?

If he copies the almighty and power nulls yhwach that wont really do anything since he can use auswahlen to get his abilities back with this he shrugged off Ichibe's attempt to name curse him and his attempt to make yhwach's power get cut in half.

And yhwach can forcefully take away the "soul fragments" that came from him i.e his abilities and this happens

After Effects of yhwach using the auswahle

 

[Champion234]

ywach stomps.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

To be fair, blowing him up to pieces won't do nothing due to Low-Godly.

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

If Gii copies something then that power become his. It's not Yhwach's property anymore, but rather Gii's version of it. Also by your own word, Auswahlen take away Yhwach soul fragment. Something that Gii won't have. Auswahlen won't really work unless it can work against someone that doesn't have Yhwach soul fragment.

And this is assuming Gii doesn't just kill him right of the bat

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

He's actually digging his own grave if he power mimics yhwach.

"he can survive as long as his soul is not destroyed"

If he forcefully takes the almighty that would safely constitute into him having a fragment of yhwach's soul into him,That would make him more susceptible to Auswahlen like what happened to Robert since he has a schrift within him.

Yhwach would soul reap him with Auswahlen.

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

And how would he kill him exactly?

Copying almighty is just Phase One.

Yhwach aint losing with that only

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

To be fair, blowing him up to pieces won't do nothing due the Low-Godly.

He can copy an inherent trait, not just ability/skill mind you. As to creature like Velzard (a True Dragon), their Ultimate skill-ish skillset isn't really Ultimate Skill but rather a trait. He might as well have mid-godly by copying the traits of his demon underling lol

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

And btw you dont need to have a fragment of yhwach's soul for the auswahlen to be effective

 

[Yomi_Schwarz]

also "If Gii copies something then that power become his. It's not Yhwach's property anymore, but rather Gii's version of it."

He's still using the almighty even if he had modifications of his (pls elaborate the "his own version" part) that is still the almighty that yhwach knows of.

 

[OpMasada]

To be fair, blowing him up to pieces won't do nothing due the Low-Godly.

He can copy an inherent trait, not just ability/skill mind you. As to creature like Velzard (a True Dragon), their Ultimate skill-ish skillset isn't really Ultimate Skill but rather a trait. He might as well have mid-godly by copying the traits of his demon underling lol

Uhhh but he's a demon, aren't they already immortal due to manifesting from the spirit of darkness?

His birth (manifestation) happened in the distant past.
Born as an absolute being, he had sway over other beings with his Charisma.
The embodiment of Pride.

If he had grown like that, he could have been a being who would be called the King of the Underworld.

Literally TSSDK's version of lucifer.

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

Prove that copying his power constitute as having his "soul" much like the Quincy that were actually granted a fragment of his soul by Yhwach or simply having smth related to Yhwach is enough for Auswahlen to work then. Unless you can prove that Auswahlen can work on something completely unrelated to him, it won't work due to it being a rather specific move that require a specific condition

Also Gii can kill angel and/or demon. Entities that have mid-godly and type 8. That's the basic requirement to be relevant in the last arc. Even without getting into his skillset, it's already more than enough to kill Yhwach

His Almighty isn't Yhwach's. Yhwach "taking back something that is his" won't work coz hes not trying to get his oower back, hes trying to get someone's power back. And differing from the SS that mostly have their power granted to them by Yhwach. Gii's power and anything je gets from Lucifer/Noden is completely his own

 

[OpMasada]

Hmmm, now that I think about it, Gii's a strange existance for having an ego as he was born...

Maybe he actually is the embodiment of pride.

Time to find ways to wank him up to abstract existance.

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

He might be the "demon" demon that was born at the same time as "time", or he might something else. I'm not quite sure about that. But yea, he might be the same kind of demon as the one that was given birth at the same moment of time There's also the pic from the novel that shows the most relevant demons in the series (Diablo, Testarossa, Carrera, Ultima, him, Hirari, and Mizari) with the caption demon smth smth. I forgot about this bit. Huh, yeah, he might be a demon himself

 

[OpMasada]

Looking at wiki, it seems rimuru will at least be low 2-c via what this says -sorry for derailing-;

In nothingness, power finds its fill, that is a holy spirit. The great holy spirit is the source of power. Among these, Light and Darkness, the two great spirits who came to exist at the same moment as the world. But, the world was without form, an ephemeral existence. Light and Shadow, Darkness and the Light; two existences that shall never interweave.

One day, the great spirit Time was born, the child of Light and Darkness. And thus the world began to move. The moving world spun, without purpose, around itself. Inside the flowing currents of life and death. Earth, Water, Fire, Wind, and Sky; these five great spirits were born. And since then, these were the great eight spirits.

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

I already covered that part in the gen dis thread. Turn Null by itself is capable of destroying universe, albeit at sufficient amount of it. While before EoS we don't know exactly how much Turn Null energy that he has (so applying the tier 2 from Turn Null is impossible), by EoS we know that he has enough to create/destroy the universe 10.000 times. And it's noted that a simple destruction took less energy than creating one. As the former just need you to exert some energy and ***** go poof, while the latter you'd need to expend more energy to create something out of it. So the statement of him having enough energy to create the universe 10.000 times would mean hes capable of destroying more than 10.000 if simple destruction is what he want to achieve

 

[KazuiK]

To be fair, blowing him up to pieces won't do nothing due the Low-Godly.

He can from the BFR right? He managed to stop the Regenerationn of Aizen ..

 

[OpMasada]

To be fair, blowing him up to pieces won't do nothing due the Low-Godly.

He can from the BFR right? He managed to stop the Regenerationn of Aizen ..

What BFR does and how it works is needed to be said.

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

Dimensional teleportation is also common amongst demon. Even mook nameless fodder demon can use it. So BFR should be no issue.

 

[OpMasada]

Dimensional teleportation is also common amongst demon. Even mook nameless fodder demon can use it. So BFR should be no issue.

As he said this BFR is apparently able to stop regen, I want to confirm what it does, unless it's just bfring the destroyed part into another space, which -as you said-, doesn't matter.

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

It's likely won't matter considering Gii's regen, as a demon, is mid-godly. Unless this BFR thing has work on mid-godly regen before

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Regen has nothing to do with BFR.

Also, His profile says Low-Godly, not Mid-Godly. If you want to change it, go make a CRT.

 

[OpMasada]

Regen has nothing to do with BFR.
Also, His profile says Low-Godly, not Mid-Godly. If you want to change it, go make a CRT.

There is no need to make a CRT, this was already accepted but fabtastic didn't add it to gii for some reason.

 

[Champion234]

This dudes Regenerationn is mid godly?? Ok im not seeing any way ywach can win this.

 

[OpMasada]

Fixed the regen on his profile

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

Doesn't need to. The CRT that made the demons and angels having mid-godly was already done a long time ago. If there's any new info on someone being an angel or demon, if there's enough evidence, then it can be added into the page by anyone. No need to make a CRT for small changes. At most you'd just need an approval from an admin and/or the verse guy. Of which i'm more than enough

 

[Belyompusct]

The further the debates deepens, the stronger he becomes, lmao. It is problematic to argue over something when the new and new information pouring on your head.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Okay, with Mid-Godly comes into play, the pringels man has no way to win this.

 

[OpMasada]

The further the debates deepens, the stronger he becomes, imao. It is problematic to argue over something when the new and new information pouring on your head.

Gii enters nazarick - everyone flips their shit due to Gii not caring about the supreme beings and doing whatever he wants.

Although the verse has shown mid-godly capabilities outside of the spirit stuff, such as Ramiris being capable of making items that regenerate people who gets erased from existance.

 

[Dragonmasterxyz]

I think you guys need to revise the verse before you make anymore Tensei matches. Looking above, it seems the profiles are missiong a massive amount of stuff. This isn't just one or two abilities, now we are talking about entire tiers, and the profiles feel incomplete, especially with all the stuff you are mentioning.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Blames Pegasus for being lazy despite having the green powah.

 

[Belyompusct]

The further the debates deepens, the stronger he becomes, imao. It is problematic to argue over something when the new and new information pouring on your head.

Gii enters nazarick - everyone flips their shit due to Gii not caring about the supreme beings and doing whatever he wants.

I'm ready to put a hundred of bucks on that he butchering the whole verse in solo. Anyway, If he has Mid-Godly, then he has Mid-Godly, nothing to say.

 

[Fabtastic_Glasses]

CP want to wait until the TL process is done. I respect his decision for that and shall wait along with him. Matches using TSSDK is possible even with current pages. Just avoid using the actual top tier because those guys tend to have more bs ***** happening in the background. Starting from mid tier and below is a fair game because what you see in their pages are more than likely to be accurate without any noteworthy stuff missing

 

[OpMasada]

I think you guys need to revise the verse before you make anymore Tensei matches. Looking above, it seems the profiles are missiong a massive amount of stuff. This isn't just one or two abilities, now we are talking about entire tiers, and the profiles feel incomplete, especially with all the stuff you are mentioning.

Tiers? oh no, the tier 2/1 stuff is only at EoS, which isn't translated yet. But yeah I agree there are abilities missing, everytime I felt like adding an ability to rimuru I just went to the WN and immediatly find one.

 

[Homu_Sweet_Homu]

Somebody can close this now. Yhwach cannot do anything to Mid-Godly.