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Yes. But it can't be his heart-shaped core
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GIGANTIC Undertale CRT.
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Yes, plus according to the third lab entry, a monster SOUL shouldn’t last outside of their body and are “attuned to their SOUL.”
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It's said in the waterfall glyphs.
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Mettatons soul is not out side his body though? Thats my point, I dont think this is enough.Yes, plus according to the third lab entry, a monster SOUL shouldn’t last outside of their body and are “attuned to their SOUL.”
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Link? Because this is never said
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Alphys didn't? Plus nothing indicates the core is even Mettaton's SOUL except for the fact that it's heart-shaped, which would only work if Mettaton was a human lol
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Mettaton isn't your conventional monster as he is made of both magic and metal. He is literally artificial. We don't really have statement saying he is a monster either.Yes, plus according to the third lab entry, a monster SOUL shouldn’t last outside of their body and are “attuned to their SOUL.”
Mettaton literally says let's have heart to heart
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And I still couldn't find the statement you talk about. It only says that "Monster needs to defeat a human" which we already got over multiple times
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Exactly, so Asriel just can't absorb Frisk's SOUL on the get go because the hax requries first to kill them.
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Mettaton is basically confirmed to be a Ghost monster that possesed the body Alphys created for him, so Mettaton's SOUL isn't one of a kind.
And? It's a heart-shaped core meant to look like a human SOUL. Don't see how this proves that it's his SOUL.
It flies around the arena and tries to electrocute Frisk. And since Mettaton fused with his body, that would count as his SOUL not being inside his body
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The method is the same.
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My point was that the core isn't his SOUL, and is just his battery
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I repeat. We already went over this. Then you said "can't absorb souls as powerful as the user". I wanted a source for that which I have yet to get.
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With this logic he wouldn't get the boost a monster would from the SOUL, which is false. Boost is the same, so method is the same too.
I know that not wanking Undertale is hard dude, but try do it for me, okay?
You are not like this
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Actually since we consider Monsters to be the baseline when it comes to SOULs, humans needing to be defeated to be absorbed would probably count as Resistance
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I know what Mettaton is. Catty and Bratty already foreshadow his nature. Btw if this was a counter to "We don't really have statement saying he is a monster either." they younare right.
But I never said Mettaton's SOUL is one of kind. Mettaton himself is one of kind due to being artificial (The closest thing is Mad Dummy who is still not the same). And we already have Frisk's soul reversed through artificial means (Yellow Mode). At the very least, this means having someone's soul upside down isn't something impossible.
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Still the Check calling it a (probably tangible) core and the "Monster SOULs can't persist outside their bodies" thing still makes it dubious
Plus, I don't see how this would be explained if Yellow Mode lets you target the SOUL
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You can’t even deal normal damage to mettatons base form so.Still the Check calling it a (probably tangible) core and the "Monster SOULs can't persist outside their bodies" thing still makes it dubious
Plus, I don't see how this would be explained if Yellow Mode lets you target the SOUL
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Targetting the SOUL would kinda ignore Mettaton's durability, especially since we already know it can harm his SOUL according to this
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Or you know average, i can still be trained and bê average.
Not really impressive, since Younger Undyne should't be above average in skill, since she is Younger, so basically asgore is just avoiding a child
But also don't remember festa from Undyne, so i'm neutral.
I trought that years of experience in this site don't count as evidence to skill, since we would need actual festa from that.
That's just looks like she is comparing they personality, not fighting skill.
While that's true, they don't show everything that's is actually happening, we also don't have any statements that proves the Monsters ARE trying to dodges our attacks, so kinda of a moot point.
The whole Sans fight, also kinda disproves that Ideia, since he show dodging our attacks and even commenting about:
"what? you think i'm gonna stand there and take it?" Implying before that, the monsters are just stading there and taking It.
Also, since the last attack are him puting you on a never ending turn, we can also imply that they are fighting by turn, so hitting a character that is not moving is a valid interpretation.
Could still be lack of effort, but okay.
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No. Since when they resisted an attempt of absorption?
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Wasn't your argument that Flowey couldn't absorb Frisk due to needing to defeat them?
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Because of a weakness of the hax, yes.
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Which wouldn't be a weakness if we consider Monster SOULs as the baseline, which we currently do
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...why would't it be a weakness? Both humans and monsters need to kill the other first to absorb.
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Flowey absorbed the monsters without killing them? But humans need to be defeated first? Wasn't that your argument or did I misunderstand?
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He massively overpowered them all first lol. Like he had the power of 6 SOULs at the time.
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Limited necromancy suck ass here, since their power comes out of us, the Player.
Book and Flowey confirms that the source of Determination is the Player ourselves.
Book and Flowey confirms that the source of Determination is the Player ourselves.
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Same tbh
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