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Hellfire
A. It seems that Ghost Rider, specifically Johnny Blaze, can produce a 'cold' hellfire, that doesn't actually harm the victim. Instead, it acts like a minor Penance Stare, causing pain and anguish. It basically forces a person to experience their own mistakes over and over against, torturing them with their own sorrow, guilt and fustrations.
Pain Manip, here.
Mind Manip, here.
Based on this, I propose that Ghost Rider and Cosmic Ghost Rider should be said to ignore durability with their hellfire and that their Pain & Mind Manip also comes from the hellfire. Note: Penance Stare is based on what you've done to others. Hellfire can just cause pain on it's own or focus in on your personal guilt/regrets/mistakes.
B. Hellfire can also kill those who are already dead. Seen here, I don't truly know what to consider this. Just an aspect of Hellfire or some kind specific Death Manip?
Penance Stare
A. Doesn't work one those without a soul. Seen here.
Thanos
Thanos has taken a Penance Stare and shrugged it off. Actually he found the experience quite enjoyable. I originally chalked this up to Thanos having no regrets, something that his alternate younger self stated. However, we have to remember something:
Thanos is quite resistant to Mind Manipulation and is skilled in using it. I mean, he keeps Moondragon, who was equipped with the Mind Stone from reading his mind and can challenge Galactus' mental defenses (which even Profressor X fails at). The Penance Stare works as a combination of Mind and Pain Manipulation. Well Thanos resists the Mind Manip and is simply resistant to the Pain? I mean, it makes more sense given that the Penanace Stare works on legit heroes like Brother Vodoo and Doctor Strange who haven't done anything as bad as Thanos has.
As such I move that the regret weakness of Penance Stare be taken out and Thanos be given resistance to Pain Manip.
So people, thoughts?
A. It seems that Ghost Rider, specifically Johnny Blaze, can produce a 'cold' hellfire, that doesn't actually harm the victim. Instead, it acts like a minor Penance Stare, causing pain and anguish. It basically forces a person to experience their own mistakes over and over against, torturing them with their own sorrow, guilt and fustrations.
Pain Manip, here.
Mind Manip, here.
Based on this, I propose that Ghost Rider and Cosmic Ghost Rider should be said to ignore durability with their hellfire and that their Pain & Mind Manip also comes from the hellfire. Note: Penance Stare is based on what you've done to others. Hellfire can just cause pain on it's own or focus in on your personal guilt/regrets/mistakes.
B. Hellfire can also kill those who are already dead. Seen here, I don't truly know what to consider this. Just an aspect of Hellfire or some kind specific Death Manip?
Penance Stare
A. Doesn't work one those without a soul. Seen here.
Thanos
Thanos has taken a Penance Stare and shrugged it off. Actually he found the experience quite enjoyable. I originally chalked this up to Thanos having no regrets, something that his alternate younger self stated. However, we have to remember something:
Thanos is quite resistant to Mind Manipulation and is skilled in using it. I mean, he keeps Moondragon, who was equipped with the Mind Stone from reading his mind and can challenge Galactus' mental defenses (which even Profressor X fails at). The Penance Stare works as a combination of Mind and Pain Manipulation. Well Thanos resists the Mind Manip and is simply resistant to the Pain? I mean, it makes more sense given that the Penanace Stare works on legit heroes like Brother Vodoo and Doctor Strange who haven't done anything as bad as Thanos has.
As such I move that the regret weakness of Penance Stare be taken out and Thanos be given resistance to Pain Manip.
So people, thoughts?
