GEoM vs the Living Tribunal

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Is that a place or something?

The Eye of Terror is a warp storm. Basically, it's a place where reality and the Warp overlap. In the center of the Eye, Chaos has the strongest influence, and thus things like the laws of reality lose all sway, and the very concept of time can be erased or added by the Gods, at will. This is still technically less than their level of influence, within the Warp itself.

 

[RavenSupreme]

i agree with matthews original assessment. LT pretty handily or inconclusive. leaning towards incon simply for this match to end.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

Is that a place or something?

The Eye of Terror is a warp storm. Basically, it's a place where reality and the Warp overlap. In the center of the Eye, Chaos has the strongest influence, and thus things like the laws of reality lose all sway, and the very concept of time can be erased or added by the Gods, at will. This is still technically less than their level of influence, within the Warp itself.

Doesn't that make them 1-A then?

 

[Lightbuster30]

i agree with matthews original assessment. LT pretty handily or inconclusive. leaning towards incon simply for this match to end.

And again, being above abstracts in one universe doesn't mean jack to another. It doesn't matter that TLT holds sway over what HIS abstracts embody, that doesn't mean anything to abstracts in other verses. Hell, the guy doesn't even hold sway over all the abstracts in his own verse (Oblivion). The Beyonders killed TLT, but did his "sway over abstract forces" save him?

 

[Lightbuster30]

Nah. Azathoth has apparently discussed, and rejected it in the past...never saw the actual discussion though.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

i agree with matthews original assessment. LT pretty handily or inconclusive. leaning towards incon simply for this match to end.

And again, being above abstracts in one universe doesn't mean jack to another. It doesn't matter that TLT is holds sway over what HIS abstracts embody, that doesn't mean anything to abstracts in other verses without years. Hell, the guy Doesn't even hold sway over all the abstracts in his own verse (Oblivion). The Beyonders killed TLT, but did his "sway over abstract forces" save him?

Oblivion is the nothingness before creation and creation is within him which is obvious why he should be stronger than TLT

And the beyonders are entities that came from outside the infinite D spaces. so ofcourse outside forces is going to kill him...

 

[Lightbuster30]

And again, being above abstracts in one universe doesn't mean jack to another. It doesn't matter that TLT is holds sway over what HIS abstracts embody, that doesn't mean anything to abstracts in other verses without years. Hell, the guy Doesn't even hold sway over all the abstracts in his own verse (Oblivion). The Beyonders killed TLT, but did his "sway over abstract forces" save him?
Oblivion is the nothingness before creation and creation is within him which is obvious why he should be stronger than TLT

And the beyonders are entities that came from outside the infinite D spaces. so ofcourse outside forces is going to kill him...

That's completely my point though: His sway over abstract forces doesn't mean a thing to entities outside his multiverse, or massively above him.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

@Light I agreed

 

[Thatoneguy78]

Yeah, I'll go inconclusive FRA

 

[Azathoth_the_Abyssal_Idiot]

Doesn't that make them 1-A then?

On its own?

No.

Some other stuff might, but that's not enough on its own.

 

[Matthew_Schroeder]

Time not existing as a concept is not remotely enough for 1-A.

 

[Quantu]

Going inconclusive FRA.

 

[Lightbuster30]

Time not existing as a concept is not remotely enough for 1-A.

Isn't the very most basic requirement to be conceptually above tine-space? So aren't they at least halfway there?

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

I think I will vote for Inconclusive too.

 

[Overlord775]

bump

 

[Hunterzillas]

So with the recent revision of The Emprah, what now?

 

[TheSandman31]

LT is probably going to get boosted to

 

[Quantu]

Yeah, maybe this thread can wait until the possible LT revisions.

 

[Eganergo]

You mean LT will become 1A?

 

[Quantu]

@Eganergo It's a possibility.

 

[Eganergo]

Wow if LT become 1A then some of marvel character will become 1A as well.

 

[LuckyCharmingStar]

yeah most marvel abstarct will be possible/likely 1-A

 

[Lightbuster30]

Isn't TLT described as the Omniversal Judge? Wouldn't that make him the judge for 1-A realms in the "Omniverse"?

 

[The_2nd_Existential_Seed]

Then Jasper's, Witch, and Franklin Richards would be 1-A via that logic. All 3 are threats to the Omniverse.

 

[Quantu]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Omniverse

 

[Lightbuster30]

https://vsbattles.fandom.com/wiki/Omniverse

If that Omniverse has 1-A realms within it, then I do believe legit "Omniverse level" people should get 1-A for it, but only if the "omniverse" fits 1-A requirements. It's no different than having someone control a "multiverse" that contains 1-A structure. But for the sake of discussion, I'm willing to drop this.

 

[Juliusz2006]

If that Omniverse has 1-A realms within it, then I do believe legit "Omniverse level" people should get 1-A for it, but only if the "omniverse" fits 1-A requirements. It's no different than having someone control a "multiverse" that contains 1-A structure. But for the sake of discussion, I'm willing to drop this.

well marvel is very inconsistent sometimes

 

[Juliusz2006]

i vote for LT

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Love how this went from LT stomping to emperor stomping.


LT get purged for reasons above.

 

[Juliusz2006]

You mean LT will become 1A?

i definitely hope so because he should be second to TOAA no matter how powerfull a character is he should be below LT i really hope it will one day happen

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

>Second to TOAA

Oblivion, molecule man, and beyonder say hi

 

[Juliusz2006]

>Second to TOAA

Oblivion, molecule man, and beyonder say hi

i said he should be i know that here are multiple characters mor powerfull than him for example oblivion , beyonder , molecule , the beyonders and protege

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

To be fair, the high 1-B versions are similar in power. But Empra is FAR more haxed.

 

[Lightbuster30]

To be fair, the high 1-B versions are similar in power. But Empra is FAR more haxed.

They really aren't. Non 1-A Warp is as far into High 1-B as you can get. To the point where deeper areas were mistaken to be 1-A. Thats so far above being > a bunch of baselines that it isn't even funny.

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

HAIL THE OMNISSIAH

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

Oh, and let's not forget the whole starchild thing...

 

[ZacharyGrossman273]

"As I walked through that vast and maddened landscape, I sought to record my journey. Oh the hubris of the man who tries to map the whimsy of the gods! Each time I turn my eyes to this page, that which greets me is different to the previous viewing. Verily, it remains unchanging whilst my eyes are upon it, but when I close this book, the continents shift and flow, and the landmarks dance upon the page, never coming to rest twice in the same place"

 

[Hunterzillas]

Bump, I think this was eventually concluded that Emp's wins, but I'm not sure where to start counting the votes.

 

[Juliusz2006]

Bump, I think this was eventually concluded that Emp's wins, but I'm not sure where to start counting the votes.

from what i ve seen most pepole vote for LT or inconclusive

 

[Hunterzillas]

from what i ve seen most pepole vote for LT or inconclusive

At the beginning yes, but the arguments were debunked after Azzy came, then the votes werebssicslly nulled. After that it was Geom or incon.