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Does getting her on my alt count? lolSo anyone pulling eula today?? Poggers
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Does getting her on my alt count? lolSo anyone pulling eula today?? Poggers
Kazuha, I could catch it after Klee banner and yes I'm F2PSaving forso no. Got a guaranteed Rate up 5 star and I don't wanna waste it. I've been waiting for this character ever since I saw their datamined model.Kazuha
Yes since you getting herDoes getting her on my alt count? lol
Thats a obscene high ball since we dont know any time frame nor distance just use GPE and assume its size is like everestSince we are going on a calc spree let's also calc pilos peak yeeting.
Assume 5000m like my busted freeze calc, we will use 2500 radius and full 5000 for your choosing (it's probably 2500 due to it being called peak). Eyeballing the distance and we got roughly 50-100 km from nearest mainland if we use germany as base but let's take 50km for safety since it isn't 30 km or lower cause it's way too close and would defeat it purpose and although we don't know where it's, it's definitely more than 50km so the calc could be somewhat lowball but still safe since it isn't higher than it truer value, time frame would be 1s for extreme high-end, 5 second for high-end, 20 second for mid-end and abysmally 60 second for low-end.
Assume basalt for density get
98,534,744,582,905kg or 394,138,978,331,605kg
Velocity 50 km/s, 10 km/s, 2.5 km/s, 833 m/s for each end respectively
Result
Extreme high-end:
1.231684307286313e+23 or 29.437 teraton, 6-B
4.926737229145063e+23 or 117.751 teraton, high 6-B
High-end:
4.92673722914525e+21 or 1.177 teraton, low 6-B
1.970694891658025e+22 or 4.71 teraton, low 6-B
Mid-end:
3.079210768215781e+20 or 73.594 gigaton, 6-C
1.231684307286266e+21 or 294.379 gigaton, high 6-C
Low-end:
3.418608769194368e+19 or 8,17 gigaton, 6-C
1.367443507677695e+20 or 32.682 gigaton, 6-C
This is if we use germany as base and the distance is probably way higher but we won't know that until it's comfirm, so this is quite a great estimate. This also align well with Venti casual country terra forming and the fact that he at his height of power pre archon is superior to Andrius due to being able to stand up against Decarabian.
The throwing is unfortunately still unquantifiable when it comes to speed/KE calcs you need to know confidently at least one of the three speed distance or time your calculation assumes 2 with distance being the most fair assumption and calculates speed from an assumption of timeThen again he still need to throw it which would use kinetic energy. We do have a rough distance via Germany base since we know where the abyss spiral is which is where he threw it and while the time frame isn't specified we can still use a rough estimate of around that since the feat wasn't something memorable for Venti which wouldn't be so if he took hours or days to do it considering his personality.
The shape being a cone look more accurate since it's describe as being larger than even dragon spine which have a cone like shape. Heck, using 50km is a lowball since we are assuming to the nearest mainland despite there already is a large mountain near there and there's no mention of dragonspine use to be apart of pilos peak.
Also Pilos peak is one of the tallest mountain so using everest sound like a stretch since it isn't confirmed to be one nor is it ever describe as covering a vast distance so using everest is a little inaccurate.
Yeah high ball for the whole thing isnt fair to say but it requires too many assumptions GPE is the better method in general when KE requires assumptionsAlso saying it's a obscene high ball despite the low and mid result which is the 2 more commonly use one is lower than yours except the larger base one of mid is pretty exaggerating, since the other 2 is high-end which require alot of context to be accepted and extreme high-end which is never gonna be accepted.
I'll make my own blog with the andrius feat using the math I put in this threadIf GPE is preferred than i guess your is better, plus no one is gonna believe a guy that have 5/5 calc being designated as wrong by people that know what they're doing anyway . So do we post your Andrius feat calc to wait for approval ?
Well those are base on the memory tho i remember the blizzard feat describe in Decarabian lore, you can see it in the genshin impact wiki Decarabian page.I'll make my own blog with the andrius feat using the math I put in this thread
although some scans of the statement would be nice since I'm lazy to go and get them
Since calcs need to link the feat/statement
I know also Andrius' talent material also states he created blizzards over the Mondstadt regionIf it isn't enough then Andrius page also have statement confirm he can create blizzard through out all of mondstadt too:
Andrius
Andrius, also known as the Wolf of the North Challenge and the Dominator of Wolves Challenge, is a Weekly Boss found in Wolvendom, Mondstadt. It is unlocked after completing the Razor's Story Quest, Lupus Minor Chapter: Act I - The Meaning of Lupical. Claiming the Trounce Blossom for Original...genshin-impact.fandom.com
Jack of no trade already made one he just need to put it into a blog with additional snow and ice creation the done.Can we possibly calc Andrius' feat as that would be another God Tier feat.
DoneJack of no trade already made one he just need to put it into a blog with additional snow and ice creation the done.
How does Azhdaha being Zhongli's equal contradict anything?And for those who wonder, yes, i'm still salty that Azhdaha is equal to Zhongli, my lore loving head just won't accept it due to the contradiction it made with the lore and context of the lore but Occam razor say that they're equal so until they aren't via clear statement i'm gonna still get salty about it.
Will list the weird question it will brought up but the more obvious one is why would Zhongli need to fight if Azhdaha is already at archon level when he was given form, especially against Osial. And no don't give me the bullshit of he grow stronger over time, Rhodeia show that it's impossible for Azhdaha to go from equal to prime adeptus Zhongli to archon Zhongli level in 3000 year despite already being at least 3000 years old when he was made.How does Azhdaha being Zhongli's equal contradict anything?
Why would Zhongli not fight just because Azhdaha is also Archon level? There are more Archon level beings in an Archon War and Zhongli fought alongside other Archons. Azhdaha would have simply been another Archon class ally. Are you trying to say that Zhongli is the type to send others to do the fighting for him? Based on what we know, he's the type to ride into battle on the front lines alongside his allies. So I ask again, why is this a contradiction?Will list the weird question it will brought up but the more obvious one is why would Zhongli need to fight if Azhdaha is already at archon level when he was given form, especially against Osial.
Wasn't even going to use it, but how does Rhodeia disprove this?And no don't give me the bullshit of he grow stronger over time, Rhodeia show that it's impossible for Azhdaha to go from equal to prime adeptus Zhongli to archon Zhongli level in 3000 year despite already being at least 3000 years old when he was made.
Unfortunately I’m probably skipping herI got Eula
It's better to just Occam's razor it to them being equal, i have my own belief and you guys have your so let's talk about it once a statement related to them is given, anymore discussion would be useless as i know i won't budge and so will you guys so let's stop here.Why would Zhongli not fight just because Azhdaha is also Archon level? There are more Archon level beings in an Archon War and Zhongli fought alongside other Archons. Azhdaha would have simply been another Archon class ally. Are you trying to say that Zhongli is the type to send others to do the fighting for him? Based on what we know, he's the type to ride into battle on the front lines alongside his allies. So I ask again, why is this a contradiction?
Wasn't even going to use it, but how does Rhodeia disprove this?
You aren't making sense. You haven't given any reason to support your thoughts. Like, is it a language barrier, but I am not understanding what your stance is here. The one thing you posted quite objectively contains no contradiction based on what you are talking about.It's better to just Occam's razor it to them being equal, i have my own belief and you guys have your so let's talk about it once a statement related to them is given, anymore discussion would be useless as i know i won't budge and so will you guys so let's stop here.
This doesn't really have anything with them training to become stronger. It's an assumption to assume they cannot, when it would make sense that they could, but they also don't care to train. Not that the "training" argument is even needed here.On the Rhodeia point tho, since it's about elemental in general i will explain. Rhodeia boss fight end with her stating that as long the water exist so do shall her. This can be taken as elemental that aren't basic like slime can regenerate or even resurrect as long as the element that they merge with exist so in Rhodeia case is the pond arena and the water of cider lake. For Azhdaha is Liyue itself if his quote is to believe. Rhodeia gain more power the more purer the water are but that's only for hydro, for geo it's probably that the older they're and the longer they merge with the earth the stronger they became which fit geo theme, which explain how he became as powerful as he is, but the thing is that in order to absorb said elemental energy and become stronger they need to stay in the element which is why Rhodeia need to find a place to settle in the first place and such place is to Rhodeia the pond while Azhdaha have to stay deep beneath the earth, but since he came out ever since he came out and live ever since he won't be able to gain as much power as he would been down there, he can still draw energy from Liyue itself but getting stronger take a longer time as he isn't in his element. Sorry for the long delay, i'm realy sleepy and the tab ain't helping me much.
Honestly i really don't get it about Kazuha aside made Eula effort from MiHoYo to made her popular right now feels nothingSaving forso no. Got a guaranteed Rate up 5 star and I don't wanna waste it. I've been waiting for this character ever since I saw their datamined model.Kazuha
Looking back at it the way i word the question does sound stupid so you're right about it making no sense, would have been better if i write out what i meant but i really don't have the motivation or the will to do it, hence asking to stop here.You aren't making sense. You haven't given any reason to support your thoughts. Like, is it a language barrier, but I am not understanding what your stance is here. The one thing you posted quite objectively contains no contradiction based on what you are talking about.
This doesn't really have anything with them training to become stronger. It's an assumption to assume they cannot, when it would make sense that they could, but they also don't care to train. Not that the "training" argument is even needed here.
Regardless, we can stop here if you wish.
First off, I never argued Azhdaha in particular training. Never once did I say he did. Next, you don't need an actual form to train. Occam's Razor would imply any being in the world can train and enhance their elemental power, it isn't all about training and "training" does not equal only one type of training. A base assumption would be that a being could in theory train to raise their power unless directly stated otherwise. That is how fiction tends to work Jack so this ain't exactly outlandish to assume, moreso it's common sense to assume such a thing. You never said that Rhodeia's bit said that this was the only way to get stronger and less said that this was merely a way for them to get stronger.It doesn't tho. This is about elemental getting stronger not normal human, heck some line suggest when Azhdaha isn't crusading with Zhongli he just laze around or sleeping so i don't know how he is training and you are the one who is being weird here i mean elemental training? We're not talking about allogenes we're talking about the elemental spirit who can't train cause they have no form and any form they do have doesn't help them in doing so, if you're seriously claiming that elemental spirit can somehow train themselves then you are the one who meed proof not me, the game never hint at elemental spirit being able to train themselves so don't know why you say that. Also the only thing that talk about Rhodeia and inconsequentially other elemental spirit getting stronger say that being old and having the right environment is the only way to get stronger, best they can do is train to utilize their power but that's it, they need time and ennviroment improvement or something like that in order to get stronger unlike allogenes who actually need to train.
Damn is that really how we treat it with Occam razor? I'm pretty sure it don't cause that's not how elemental power increase for elemental spirit so far, but if that's how we treat it then ok, what make sense the most fly.First off, I never argued Azhdaha in particular training. Never once did I say he did. Next, you don't need an actual form to train. Occam's Razor would imply any being in the world can train and enhance their elemental power, it isn't all about training and "training" does not equal only one type of training. A base assumption would be that a being could in theory train to raise their power unless directly stated otherwise. That is how fiction tends to work Jack so this ain't exactly outlandish to assume, moreso it's common sense to assume such a thing. You never said that Rhodeia's bit said that this was the only way to get stronger and less said that this was merely a way for them to get stronger.
You brought that up first so i thought you somehow mean it but yeah, no way that big toad can train when he's so thicc that he can't even leap forward even a tiny bit of distance.I mean, it's not like training is relevant here because we know Azhdaha didn't train, but was made that powerful. So arguing over "training" is pretty irrelevant to Azhdaha's power.
Well you brought up the training argument before as not being legit and so I was curious to why that was.You brought that up first so i thought you somehow mean it but yeah, no way that big toad can train when he's so thicc that he can't even leap forward even a tiny bit of distance.
Wait chnky is banned? Why?!!
Well that was before i knew that Occam razor define everyone as being able to train to increase their power.Well you brought up the training argument before as not being legit and so I was curious to why that was.
Who's chnky?