Reason why Speedforce is High 1A isnt cuz of "It is one of seven forces". With this reason Hal Jordan should be High 1A for shaking whole Emotional Spectrum which is also one of Seven forces.
Morrison saw the overvoid as akin to pure nothingness or pure primal consciousness , it is beyond descriptions and distinctions. All of existence is a Flaw in it’s perfection so everything is technically part of Being itself, in that they exist in The Flaw, is only through the unification between beings in The Flaw and the Ground of Being itself. It is inspired by eastern teachings(Tibetan Buddhism).
The elemental realms are 1A as they transcend the totality of the material plane.
so does other Tier 0s. So "Absolute True monad being" statement seems bit stretch
I saw it resembling God speaks where you have a beyond beyond God state(paratpar parabrahman) Dematteis works have the same state of God. Especially after that Reddit AMA.
DeMatteis wrote God from Seekers into Mysteries, Divine Creator also. DeMatteis didnt write Overvoid he even said he has no clue wth is that
What l am saying is that Morrisons description is similar difference is it has no avatars and creation does not work through love( the overvoid is just an abstract description of the same). Yes Dematteis never wrote the overvoid but they are all the supreme void beyond all voids.
No
The Void (Vertigo)
The Void is a timeless realm outside Creation where different Creations with different Creator exist. It’s infinite and eternal teeming with life that's are described as heartbeats in its endless nothingness. The Void proliferates with different versions of Creation as well as different...vsbattles.fandom.com
Also did we accept Void = Overvoid thing?
yes
I know that isn’t the reason, I’m saying that could be the reason in the future since it’s current reasoning has a few flaws, and on the Hal Jordan thing he does have a varies so it could be possible but unfortunately without any other feats at that level it’s probably going to be considered an outlier
Dc database says he tanked a punch from a mind controlled Superman and is sort of a new god and has the power of all the oceans in the multiverse, the Superman thing is 3-C since that’s Superman’s normal output, the ocean thing is high 3-A since the multiverse currently has infinite universes which means infinite oceans, the new god thing is at least 2-C and at most 1-A since emanations of new gods in rebirth are 2-C based on Orion’s profile and true forms of new gods are 1-A
From my memory Blue wasn't New God but belongs to Metaphysical World. Keep at mind currently they are rated as Low 1A. So Aquaman probably would get Low 1A hax or powers which would be under AP
He isn’t the blue itself he’s an avatar of it, according to DC database it’s been said that that makes him comparable to a new god
if so probably it wouldnt get that much upscale
Which comic exactly?
Overvoid can't be Tier 0 under Logical Omnipotence
That Reddit AMA too. The implicate order from animal man is different from the overvoid; but the overvoid has strong backing elsewhere until synder came.
A key thing l notice with DC is that a writer can come and just have their own version of a supreme being. According to Snyder it's the presence, Morrison overvoid, Ram V Pure Source(though a bit early), Dematteis divine presence, Delano and the other animal writers the implicate order and vertigo the Monad. This leads to mess.
I think the presence has more consistency imo
When?
If this wiki only suggests separation for these natural contradictions (which has been terribly managed in the past), then the problem lies in the wiki's system. Every writer is naturally free to share their opinions, and we can't complain about that. Also, as you mentioned, I don't see any major contradictions. Of course, there are minor contradictions that are very natural, but DC has already created concepts to resolve these internally, and if you still see a problem, it's your fault.
Snyder really needs to stay away from cosmic stuff. He's at his best with street level stories where his type of "hype moments and aura" writing works best.
I don't think he is bad but his interpretation of some cosmic stuff isn't on par with Grant Morrison or Jm demattis . He still considers everything including elseworlds as cannon to the DC multiverse overall .
