Garou fights... himself??

[Emirp sumitpo]

This is the greatest match up of all time.

The Beyonder decides to just pluck these characters out of their home realities and pit them against each other because why not.

Rules:

• Speed is not equalized
• Fight takes place on the moon
• Opponent start 10 meters away from each other
• No prior knowledge is given to either opponents
• Copy Robot is given time to copy
• High 4-C Awakened Garou is used.

Garou:

Copy Robot:

My mother hits both of them with the belt:

 

[Quantu]

Mode: Beyonder

 

[RinneItachi]

Does Copy Robot have any defined limitations to what they can copy? Or is it just treated as anything in its series?

 

[RinneItachi]

Cause I feel like it'd be ruled out as NLF if we said Copy Robot can copy what Garou can do, at least in regards to raw power. Especially seeing as it's called that for Garou being able to copy anything above his tier level.

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Going from the profile, I think anything?

 

[RinneItachi]

Considering that Copy Robot should start out as fodder, I think it depends on if it can copy things instantly. Because if not I don't see what stops Garou from one-shotting or just BFRing. It also depends on if it can copy things that it hasn't seen.

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

Is the rate at which the robot improves abilities that it copies faster than Garou?

Or, by copying Garou, will it be improving at the same rate as him? It will also need to improve its stats, as Garou's will be growing while they fight too.

If it can't match or outpace Garou's own improvement of abilities and his stats, then I don't think it stands much of a chance. It'd be kind of like Saitama vs Garou, except with Garou in Saitama's shoes this time.

Also, the weaknesses the robot has include this: "Due to still ultimately being a robot regardless of who they copy, they may not be able to copy abilities that require things like minds and souls." Would this mean that it wouldn't be able to copy things like Garou's supernatural willpower and instinctive reactions?

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Is the rate at which the robot improves abilities that it copies faster than Garou?

Or, by copying Garou, will it be improving at the same rate as him? It will also need to improve its stats, as Garou's will be growing while they fight too.

If it can't match or outpace Garou's own improvement of abilities and his stats, then I don't think it stands much of a chance. It'd be kind of like Saitama vs Garou, except with Garou in Saitama's shoes this time.

Also, the weaknesses the robot has include this: "Due to still ultimately being a robot regardless of who they copy, they may not be able to copy abilities that require things like minds and souls." Would this mean that it wouldn't be able to copy things like Garou's supernatural willpower and instinctive reactions?

I'm pretty sure it means like mind hax or soul hax, neither of which Garou has

 

[Rockymountainjammer]

I'm pretty sure it means like mind hax or soul hax, neither of which Garou has

Ah. I see. Thanks for the clarification.

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

From what I gather, Copy Robot instantly copies.

 

[RinneItachi]

From what I gather, Copy Robot instantly copies.

Does it need to consciously observe an enemy at least for a moment, or is it instant and automatic? If it's instant and automatic that makes this complicated. If it needs to consciously process the opponent, Garou still has the BFR wincon.

 

[Epiccheev]

From what I gather, Copy Robot instantly copies.

Garou self destructs

 

[Emirp sumitpo]

Bump

 

[RinneItachi]

So far most of this thread is just about what Copy Robot can do.

If it instantly copies all of Garou's ability right as the battle starts, can it keep copying Garou continuously after that? If not, shouldn't Garou be able to just adapt and grow to overcome a power equal to his own?

 

[Epiccheev]

Now Copy robot just needs to make a dozen clones and have them all attack Garou with his own attacks for months and when he can beat all of them he's officialy as skilled as Zoro

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

Now Copy robot just needs to make a dozen clones and have them all attack Garou with his own attacks for months and when he can beat all of them he's officialy almost as skilled as Zoro

Fixed.

jkjk

 

[ZillertheBucko]

uh
incon
unless there's something he can't copy, but this just seems like incon

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

They just... copy each other infinitely, I guess...

Incon FRA?

 

[ZillertheBucko]

maybe he wouldnt be able to copy awakening breath due to being robotic

 

[ZoroNotZolo]

maybe he wouldnt be able to copy awakening breath due to being robotic

Then again, does this Garou even use that in character, or would he use anything Copy Robot can't to get an edge?

 

[Dienomite22]

Can copy robot copy biological abilities?

 

[Kachon123]

Following

 

[TauanVictor]

Does Copy Robot have the answer to be BFR'd?

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Does Copy Robot have the answer to be BFR'd?

Copy Robot would have all of Garou’s abilities and intelligence. If Garou were to try and BFR him ,then Copy Robot could do the exact same to Garou.

 

[TauanVictor]

Copy Robot would have all of Garou’s abilities and intelligence. If Garou were to try and BFR him ,then Copy Robot could do the exact same to Garou.

There is no evidence that he can use the portals as efficiently as Garou.

 

[Chaos Jester25]

There is no evidence that he can use the portals as efficiently as Garou.

Copy Robot copies the intelligence of the person he's copying so he should be on Garou's level skill wise.

 

[ZillertheBucko]

yeah, he just copies anything and everything
this is a clear inconclusive

 

[TauanVictor]

Copy Robot copies the intelligence of the person he's copying so he should be on Garou's level skill wise.

Well, beings with IP2 normally have infinite stamina, so I can assume that they both copy each other until they reach a point where Garou's Stamina runs out.

 

[Dienomite22]

Can copy robot copy biological abilities?

 

[Chaos Jester25]

Copy Robot can can copy most abilities that don't require a soul or a human mind to work. Since Copy Robot will always be a robot though, I doubt he can copy abilities based on the users organic biology.

 

[Epiccheev]

Can he copy Garou's Reactive evolution or keep copying him instantly as he grows stronger?

 

[Chaos Jester25]

I'm not really sure. How exactly does Garou's RE work?

 

[RinneItachi]

I'm not really sure. How exactly does Garou's RE work?

He just gets better. Strength, speed, durability, and skill, he's constantly growing as he fights, as long as the opponent is decently powerful compared to himself. He can also copy things nigh-instantly by just looking at them, even physical stats. He could even perfectly copy Saitama's power as Saitama was in the middle of throwing a punch. Before actually gaining a real copy power, he was still able to perfectly mimic things off of just instincts and observation, including entire fighting styles, animalistic or supernatural fighting styles, no less.

 

[Dienomite22]

I'm not really sure. How exactly does Garou's RE work?

What Rin said plus it’s Biological and also amplified by emotion

 

[Chaos Jester25]

I don't think he could copy Garou's Reactive Evolution. At best, he could copy Garou's power mimicry.

 

[Phoenks]

If he can copy Garou's evolution, then this is inconslusive. If he can't, then Garou wins.

 

[RinneItachi]

I don't think he could copy Garou's Reactive Evolution. At best, he could copy Garou's power mimicry.

Probably. His reactive evolution isn't treated as a special power or something, like the ability to fly or whatnot, it's just something Garou does because he's an insanely talented prodigy.

 

[Phoenks]

I don't think he could copy Garou's Reactive Evolution. At best, he could copy Garou's power mimicry.

Garou should win this easily then. His adaptation/RE allows him to traverse extreme gaps of power in brief timeframes.

 

[Epiccheev]

The RE is most likely due to breaking his limiter. The limiter in OPM refers to an abstract limit to a living being's growth wich limits their potential. If one is submitted to enough stress or obsession they surpass their limit and they mutate heavily turning into a mysterious being based on their obsession, their mind is also warped in the process. In case a living being is subjected to extraordinary effort (enough to push their bodies to the brink of death over and over again) and pushes through with willpower without losing their minds their limiter starts to break without them becoming a full monster and capping out. That's what happens in Garou's case.

 

[Chaos Jester25]

The RE is most likely due to breaking his limiter. The limiter in OPM refers to an abstract limit to a living being's growth wich limits their potential. If one is submitted to enough stress or obsession they surpass their limit and they mutate heavily turning into a mysterious being based on their obsession, their mind is also warped in the process. In case a living being is subjected to extraordinary effort (enough to push their bodies to the brink of death over and over again) and pushes through with willpower without losing their minds their limiter starts to break without them becoming a full monster and capping out. That's what happens in Garou's case.

If that's the case then there's no way that CR could copy it considering the fact that he isn't a living being due to being a robot. I'm voting Garou for the above reasons.