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Hello, all! Glad to have you back for yet another Sonic CRT!

Introductio
So a while back, there was this calc right here that placed the cast at 614 Zettatons. Cue finding several other feats, an inevitably argumentative CRT, and finally adjusting the profiles after they went through, and bam! All was right with the world!

But as you likely saw in the comments, Executor (the one who evaluated it in the first place) recommended that the person who did the calc could find more accurate results if he actually found the mass of the plate/continent/giant ass rock. In doing so, our dear friend Mephistus made this new calc right here! The accepted result? 1.4 Yottatons because people are still afraid of that demon known as 5-A Base Sonic

Scaling
Due to the accepted result being so close to 5-B+ (which starts at 1.5 Yottatons), the cast is pushed into that range anyways. Why? Simple, amigos!

Sonic has fought against Chaos Four, which absorbed four Chaos Emeralds. The Chaos Emeralds offer an exponential increase when together rather than a linear one, so it's safe to assume that four together would offer at least a .1 Yottaton increase. Anyone who says otherwise is downplaying filth

As a supporting feat, as stated in the profile of our dear edgie hedgie, Shadow, he can fully harness the power of his Chaos Emerald. As another supporting feat, some of the cast of Sonic Battle can fight Emerl after he absorbed the power of a Chaos Emerald to grow in strength. We already use this as supporting evidence, so nothing much has changed except the AP value a single Emerald gives.

Yet even still, you may be saying, "But Shake, you nincompoop! If Shadow can harness the full power of one Emerald, and Emerl can be fought with the power of one Chaos Emerald, how does that push them into 5-B+?" Because it doesn't change the fact that Sonic is repeatedly stated to trai and grow stronger (sometimes even "much stronger") and faster. If not outright said, it's the allusion to it as well.

So, to conclude, they're in the 5-B+ territory no matter what.

5-A
Many people are seeing 5-A via upscaling, so it's time to make a list of those who can possibly scale into it.

  • Chaos 6 (Absorbed a large quantity of Chaos Energy, and scales to 6 Chaos Emeralds)
  • Sonic with the Light Speed Attack (Deals double damage against Chaos 6)
  • Knuckles with the Maximum Heat Attack (Same as LSA)
  • Excalibur (Heavily superior to Base and defeated somebody who stomped him prior)
  • Werehog (Absorbed a heavy amount of Dark Gaia's energy, and is heavily superior to Base)
  • Unhibited Shadow (Stomped an army of Mephiles clones)
  • Neo Metal Sonic
  • Mephiles (Required all of Team Dark to defeat him)
  • Iblis
  • King Arthur (Needed to be heavily weakened so Sonic could defeat him)
  • Infinite (Stomped Sonic)
  • Mega Death Egg robot
  • Post-Forces Sonic (Beat Infinite after their first encounter)
The Changes
There's a few, but they're manageable.

  • This is really just the general one. Everyone who currently scales to Planet level will now scale to Planet level+.
  • Those fron the list above will either get an "At least 5-B, possibly 5-A" or a flat "5-A" rating
Conclusion
The 5-Bs of the verse all get buffs, with some possibly even reaching into 5-A!

Thanks for stopping by the Upgrade House Party once again! Make sure to lock the door on the way out so the feds don't get on our case!
 
JiggyHunter11 said:
Wouldn't that make Shadow without his limiters and all characters with statistics amplifications 5-A too?
Yeah, if Werehog os 5-A then every character who is at least 5-B could get at possible 5-A
 
Would Sonic get At least 5-B, possibly 5-A in his base form since he has Stat Amp as well?
 
I say Base Sonic should flat out be At Least 5-B+, possibly 5-A since he got so much stronger since Forces
 
While that is true, I think it'd be best to save that for another CRT.

5-A Sonic is... Still controversial, and I'd need a proper thread with the sole purpose of that in mind. It'd be much more efficient.
 
Characters that might get 5-A via upscaling:

Sonic via light speed attack (the move does double damage to Chaos 6)

Knuckles via Maximun Heat Attack (same as the light speed dash)

Werehog

Excalibur

Unhibited Shadow

Neo Metal Sonic

Infinite

Mega Death Egg robot

And a Post Forces Sonic
 
Well, looks fine since a calc member with the calc low-end. The ones above would end up as 5-A due to being above most of the cast, Chaos-6 would scale since has absorbed a lot of energy from the emeralds and thus is superior to its previous forms, Mephiles because Shadow required Omega and Rouge to fight him, Iblis for being the raw power and King Arthur since he needed to be weakened for Sonic to defeat him at the time.
 
Sonic should also get 5-A via Wisp, since he stated while using them he felt an immense power, at least in the DS japanese version
 
I agree. Also how close to 5A is the current Tier 5 calc we are debating on ?

If it's stupidly close to 5A... I agree with Infinite , Post Sonic Forces and likely Sonic Forces Avatar being 5-A.
 
Jesus christ... He has one heck of an AP advantage against most in his tier.

Yep but then I agree... But... wouldn't that make Base Sonic on the border of 5A before then as he has statements of getting stronger over time and stomping Zavok and comparative enemies after getting captured by Infinite who previously was nigh even with him ? We even see some of the Sonic Forces stomping people who were previously comparable with his 5B tier... Even Tails did it once.
 
Maybe Sonic could get 5-A earlier? Since he beat Perfect Chaos and considering he's now so close to 5-A it's not as outlierish as before
 
Post Forces being 5-A is alright, Sonic was still weaker than Chaos 6, this isn't a 5-A upgrade, the characters mentioned will only be 5-A via upscaling, that's it
 
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