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Also you could easily argue that toph can't bend his sand since he's better at sand then she is
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Gaara vs Toph
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In later incarnations yes. But Chunnin Exams Gaara doesn't showcase superior AP to wrestle away her control or better precision than Toph
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No. She can't bend Wood because Wood is not Earth. Not because it's alive or something
Also Toph never states anything like what you said
Toph's attack and reaction speed scales to Zuko, Aang, Azula and Iroh's lightning reaction feats (which you can also see in the profile).
This is not movement speed. And also ALL speeds are equalized, including Toph and Gaara's attack speed, and considering this Gaara's attack speed is slower than Toph's, he ain't outspeeding her at all
Again, stated nowhere. Not even in that episode
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I unironically said "Ew!" When I saw the title.
But Gaara FRA .
But Gaara FRA .
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I vote Toph here btw
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Toph doesn’t has better control over sand than Gaara. Her Ba Sing Se replica is impressive indeed, but it doesn’t compares to Gaara creating sand clones nor a functional third eye made entirely out of sand.
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Why are we acting as if Toph can only control sand? She can control all kinds of earth, giving her a large environmental advantage. Even if her control of sand isn’t as good as his, her controlling his sand would definitely take Gaara off guard at first. She can turn his sand into stone to use to her advantage, and let’s not forget she also has metal bending, which is something that’s far stronger than her regular earth bending. With her already having the higher AP, adding metal armor to that would give Gaara a huge run for his money, especially if she manages to get up close and physical, which wouldn’t be too good for Gaara because she’s rather skilled in martial arts. But Gaara? In this key he’s not really good at taijutsu at all.
I just want people to keep these factors in mind because not much is known about Toph.
I just want people to keep these factors in mind because not much is known about Toph.
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People argued she can't control his sand, so I answered those claims
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Toph FRA
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Wait! Avatar characters MH on this wiki tf?!
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toph wins I guess.
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Wait how is toph getting pass his sand barrier? And Toph is not bending the sand in gaara gourd, it is sentient.
And isn't gaara in this key prone to go wild and bijuu stuff
And isn't gaara in this key prone to go wild and bijuu stuff
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Only in combat/reaction speed, not travel speed
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I don’t think anyone is. This is about Toph Sandbeding Gaara's sand.
Toph AP advantage as it is is less than a X2, without taking into account that she scales to or is superior to EoS Aang, whereas Gaara's scaling chain involves him being superior to someone who effortlessly defeated a stronger version of the one who performed the original feat. The gap isn’t that big.
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Prove it's enough to deal with her metal bending.
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How strong is, in comparison, her Metalbending to her Earthbending?
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I guess thats acceptable.
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Isn't she wall level physically?
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Yeah, I should've said "clash with her bending" instead of harming her.
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There's been talks of a speed downgrade but no one has really made a thread on it.
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Silly, but that's a discussion for another time.
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I see. I was hella confused for a sec lmao
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Ok, ok let's save the lightning stuff for another thread and focus on the fight.
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life force has never been stated to stop bending. In fact we know it isn't related, since swamp benders exist
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Tbh swamp bending comes from bending the water in vines.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Yeah. It's a form of waterbending. Though Katara isn't skilled in that style, which is why she was also trapped
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In that he doesn't move until after the lightning had hit him
MinatoSparkle
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Exactly, so Toph could bend the earth in the sand, even if the overall thing is living.
Gilad_Hyperstar
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Actually, you can see right at the beginning that Iroh moved slightly toward the lightning bolt and positioned himself
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If you watch a frame by frame Iroh did the equivalent of a muscle twitch when the lightning bolt hit him. Its definitely not a MHS+ showing.
Yeah
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Idk, really don't think she can keep u
Even if she can she would make it even more difficult and she isn't as good as bending it as garaa so she really can't. Plus one tail then blow her away np
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Melon Lord FRA.
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My vote goes garaa
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Exactly
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Wdym she would make it even more difficult? Also who says she's not as good at bending it? Her power is greater, so she'd be able to wrestle control from him. And he's restricted to 8-B, so no Shukaku
See above
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He gets the partial transformation. Also he's shown better control with sand through feats. Her higher AP doesn't come from manipulating sand.
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