Future Warrior (XV2) justificacion adjustment

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

A User has asked me to post this for them:

https://plus.google.com/113806516725407052781/posts/5YLV9KpVNSR

Post game SSJ1 Goku>FW (XV2)>Super Mira>Demigra.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_U4NVm8CO4

I can't find the quote but he does say the difference in power between him and the Future Warrior is "Too far apart" but this one should suffice. He says if the FW(XV2) post game continues to train he MIGHT become a good rival for him.

This shows Beerus>FW(XV2)>Super Mira and obviously Super Mira>Giant Demigra.

So "Harmed an enraged Beerus who shouldn't be too much weaker than Demigra" should be taken off FW(XV2) profile

Beerus is also stronger than the time patrol and Xeno Goku in Heroes BTW.

 

[Bluetrekking]

Seems fine. I am also pretty sure that we assumed that Demigra was stronger was a deleted voiceline.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Bump.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Bump

 

[SSJRyu1]

Him being weaker than Goku is wrong. He can battle an amped fused zamasu solo for a while and helps beat him through the battle.

https://youtu.be/nOogUlaqazQ?t=2129


Also it's stated even your base is above golden Frieza. Without transforming.

https://imgur.com/a/ZRTD2

https://imgur.com/a/cLo3D


Can fight SSJB RoF Goku and Vegeta, Golden Frieza and Meacha cooler all at once and win.

https://imgur.com/a/I3GyJ


Only warrior to pass Whis test for training so far. None else was even close.

https://imgur.com/a/ndZ61


Whis states you are a genius, and after finishing his training Whis states you pick up his training faster than Goku and Vegeta, and that you have natural talent that they could only wish for.

https://imgur.com/a/mAvi0


And you even wound casual Whis in training, although you are still weaker than him.

https://imgur.com/a/4y7Jw


So certainly above RoF Golden Frieza even in base form. And close to amped fused Zamasu as of DLC 4. Stronger now as of DLC 5 and 6.

 

[The_Everlasting]

"A User has asked me to post this for them"

Who keeps asking you to post threads? Lol.

 

[DMUA]

Yeah, pretty sure Goku ain't above Future Warrior.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

"A User has asked me to post this for them"

Who keeps asking you to post threads? Lol.

A banned user who wishes to debate. I can't say though.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

And for the record I agree with SSJRyu1. I will wait for the user if he desires to make a counter point or something.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

Here is his reply:

I'll debate the Future Warrior and Goku later. But for now Demigra and Beerus is the main concern.

Beerus being stronger than the Future Warrior, Goku and most importantly Demigra still stands

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_U4NVm8CO4

He said the FW, post game [Which is post ROF BTW] might be able to be a good rival for him if he continues training. Beerus during ROF is stronger than SSJB Goku who should logically be stronger than Giant Demigra at that point since even SSJ3 Goku could fight him.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dC58Yj4oCg8

In the original Xenoverse game, himself and Whis considered the fight not staying awake for. Even if you don't believe they survived the destruction of history, they would have seen the entire fight prior and after Toki-Toki reset the multiverse and still considered Demigra fodder.

Super Mira is superior to Giant God Demigra so RoF SSJB Goku [whom only needed SSJ3 God essence to fight Demigra] who is weaker than Beerus, being able to contend with him shows even ROF Goku should be above Demigra. And since Beerus>ROF SSJB Goku. Beerus>Demigra.

 

[SSJRyu1]

I agree that Beerus is above Xenoverse 1 Demigra actually. Like was said Demigra's battle is not considered a big deal by Whis to Beerus, and Beerus still thinks FW is inferior to him Post game.

It's clear though Demigra is superior to SSJ3 Post BoG Goku since he can take him and the patroller on at once barely losing in the end, and can one shot them to with a clean hit like he does prior to the battle with his staffs.

If I had to estimate Demigra's power in Xenoverse 1 I think the best thing is to compare him to the patrollers best feat in X1, which is beating RoF SSJB Goku and Vegeta at once in a post game PQ. This is the hardest thing he does in his quests.

Even the good ending has patroller still needing assistance to win in the form of extra power from Goku and company, however he still takes on Demigra up to that point alone, so the gap is not to large. Also Demigra's residual magic alone after his defeat still allows fodders like Broly to match the patroller Post game and into DLC, so it is safe to say he scales to that feat and would also be able to beat RoF SSJB Goku and Vegeta at once to since he is around patrollers level, even post game his energy is.

So above RoF SSJB Goku imo, but still below Beerus clearly.

I just don't agree that Goku is as strong as future warrior from Xenoverse 2 is all for the reasons above. Even his base was above RoF Golden Frieza after all before getting his own golden form or beating Mira. Current is able to fight amped fused Zamasu solo for a while and help through the entire fight so is around that level likely.

 

[AKM sama]

"A User has asked me to post this for them"
Who keeps asking you to post threads? Lol.

Ikr

I think the user should be unbanned if the user wishes to behave properly or not do whatever he was banned for.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Bump. There seems to be agreements of Beerus>Demigra.

 

[Golden_Void]

I don't think we should justify scaling from mentor statements simply because you unlock most of them before you even complete the story.

In the Capsule Corp time rift, when you train and fight with SSB Vegeta, he says something along the lines of your power rivaling his, and you get the time rift questlines very early in the story.

I wouldn't use mentor statements for anything other than direct statements regarding the plot.

Vegeta - I'm not holding back, I'll give everything I got

After beating him - Don't tell me we're even?!

Keep in mind XV2 restricts FW to base form as evidenced by cutscenes.

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

The Goku>>Future Warrior thing is contradicted due to the fact that he defeats SSJB Goku and SSJB Vegeta twice in Beerus master quests and in Whis. And in Whis' quest Golden Frieza and Post Game Cooler where thrown in the bunch too and they got defeated handily.

XV1 FW also defeats SSJB Goku and Vegeta in one of the parallel quests.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

This is about Beerus>Demigra now as said before. And is the main purpose of the thread.

 

[Golden_Void]

Idk about that, Beerus threatens to destroy a lot of people he's never seen at full power.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

He's above the post game future warrior and SSB Goku. That should be more than enough. Him and Whis considered Demigra fodder.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

And remember. It was ressurecrion of f Frieza that fought Mira. At that point Beerus is stronger

 

[Golden_Void]

Well in that case Beerus >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Super Mira

SSB Goku only has KKx10 during the U6 tournament arc, and he didn't use kaioken on Mira.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Yeah. And Beerus is still above kkx10.. Goku hasn't surpassed Beerus in Xenoverse yet and tells post game future warrior his power is too far above is. Although I cannot find the scan for that right now

 

[Super_Saiyan_God_Julian]

The only reason the "Beerus is weaker than Demigra" statement is in the Future Warrior's profile is because he was scaled to canon Beerus.

 

[Zenkaibattery1]

Well, the issue is resolved now due to the recent upgrades. So this thread can be closed.

 

[Antvasima]

Okay.