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Bluetrekking said:
Manipulating someone's Existence is plot Manipulation. You literally said Existence Erasure in your previous post.
i said that beerus is not immune to erasure but before that i said : data and exictence based mind hax.

so, what resictence doesd fw have to plot manipulation? and data manipulation?
 
Also, the catalyst of mind manipulation means nothing. It matters what you do with it. All she has done is basic brainwashing
 
Bluetrekking said:
Also, the catalyst of mind manipulation means nothing. It matters what you do with it. All she has done is basic brainwashing
yes it does, its like sayiing the catalist of ignoring dura means nothing and that naruto can kill goku with it. it means a lot. and again, monikas is far stronger than fws
 
He does not resist those but he resists aspects of them. Mind manipulation is an aspect of her Plot Manipulation. He can't resist Data manipulation but Mind manipulation is an aspect of it.
 
"Also, mid-Godly negs existence erasure."

Nitpicking, because it doesn't matter in this thread, but I'm a d*ck, so...

ovo

Anyway, not always true, if you have strong enough existence erasure (cough cough cough)
 
Bluetrekking said:
He does not resist those but he resists aspects of them. Mind manipulation is an aspect of her Plot Manipulation. He can't resist Data manipulation but Mind manipulation is an aspect of it.
she can litiraly bfr him into her world and plot manipulate him into staying
 
@Bluetrekking

How do we know if what your saying is really the case though? Monika's mind manipulation is done via data manipulation...So unless FW has resistance to data mani he can't resist it.

Just because a character is resistant to OHK via death manipulation does not mean they are resistant to Akame's OHK via poison manipulation....I wonder if there was ever a discussion like this before...
 
OHK is a way different comparison. You can OHK via literally any hax in any process affecting anything. The difference between that and mind manip is that the only thing that Mind manipulation can affect is the mind. So don't use red herrings in your argument to prove a point.
 
Bluetrekking said:
OHK is a way different comparison. You can OHK via literally any hax in any process affecting anything. The difference between that and mind manip is that the only thing that Mind manipulation can affect is the mind. So don't use red herrings in your argument to prove a point.
no, mind manipulation can affect your brain (composite virus), your feelings (monika), or even your soul in some cases
 
Bluetrekking said:
Your feelings are connected to your brain buddy. Can you show me an example of it affecting your soul?
not in all verses, tfor exemple ghosts, exemple is frisk with asriel. ill be out for 10 mins,
 
@Bluetrekking

Mind. "the element of a person that enables them to be aware of the world and their experiences, to think, and to feel; the faculty of consciousness and thought."


Monika doesn't manipulate a persons mind itself. She aplifies aspects of a character by going into the character's folder. She does this on a scale which contains many timelines. She changes aspects of the very reality she is within to use mind manipulation(Which is really just changing aspects of a character via plot/data manipulation).


Something like time breaker magic effects a character directly while Monika's ability changes a character on a fundemental level(By changing the way the character is written/portrayed)
 
I vote incoclusive because they cannot kill eachother. But who knows, maybe Monika will find the warrior to be a good enough boyfriend.
 
How is this still open. Only reason Sayori, Monika's inferior, didn't instawin the 2-C royale is because a character was there that passively deleted people.

Future warrior has absolutely no chance of winning.
 
Future Warrior has "Lol Mid-Godly" to resist existence erasure. It's inconclusive.
 
DMUA said:
Future Warrior has "Lol Mid-Godly" to resist existence erasure. It's inconclusive.

what stops monikas plot manipulation from making him stay inactive for a month, winning?
 
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