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What? Magic causes the mind manipulation. That is like saying everyone that is resistant to Buu's transmutation can't resist any other transmutation because Buu causes it by magic. That is quite illogical to me.
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Future Warrior 2 vs. Monika
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Inconclusive for the reasons above, Monika can't get past that regen, FW can't get past non-corporeality.
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wouldent making him a vegetal count? mind manipulation and allPaulo.junior.969 said:
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I debunked that. He resists Mind manipulation.
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Inconclusive for reasons above as well.
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no, he resist magic, not data based mind manipulation.Bluetrekking said:
or is vegeto immune to transmutation?
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The magic causes it. We use verse Equalization.
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Similar supernatural aspects of verses get equalized in a reasonable fashioBluetrekking said:
data manipulation=/=magic
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He can kill Monika with soul hax but not permanently. So, this is pretty inconclusive.
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soul punisher needs to hit an enemyBluetrekking said:
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Soul manipulation can bypass non Corporeality. Plus, the AoE is pretty wide.
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it can bypass it normaly, but not alwaíys, especialy here, as she is not in one place specificBluetrekking said:
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Look on the Non-Corporeal page. Soul manipulation bypasses dude.
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Not always, depends of the type of non-corporeality, and on what the Soul Manipulation can do.
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it can if its capable of hitting her, the problem is not her being noncorporeal, its here not being there to be hit as she can be in multiple places at once and teleporting via data manipulationBluetrekking said:
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AFAIK, Monika's if fairly standard as it comes from simply not having a file.
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If she could be at multiple places at once, she would be nigh-omnipresent and Speed is Equalized anyways. FW's teleportation is > to Monika's as well.
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yes, but h estill cant hit herBluetrekking said:
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Why? Speed. Is. Equalized.
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and hes only hit that coul dammage her can easly be evadedBluetrekking said:
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Equalized speed allows you to hit beings who have no body?
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@Paulo Again soul manipulation can work. Unless you prove to me that Monika's non-corporeality can no sell soul manipulation, it works. You need feats of these things y'know.
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An AoE attack with decent range is quite hard to avoid with equal speed.
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but it will never hit. like, he cant even SEE her and that attack will not home as its aoe is not quiet good enough to hit a teletrasporting personBluetrekking said:
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Anyways I'm not even arguing FW wins, I just brought up that he can affect her.
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Wait a sec, so, Future Warrior's Soul Manipulation needs to hit the physical body for it to work? That... kind of sucks a little, tbh.
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Well, it can hit a Mass of Corrupted Souls
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So, I guess it could work? Idk.
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FW does not even need to see Monika. He can easily sense her. DB characters have feats of sensing Non-Corporeal beings anyways. FW has better and more diverse teleportation as well.
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sensing works via chi and that needs phisical strenghtBluetrekking said:
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and how would he sense a formless mass of knowlege? and janemba has a phisical body as a base
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Again, Soul Manipulation! Can affect non-corporeals. At this point, you guys are practically denying what is written on the non-corporeal page. Ki is basically a life force including plants, trees, hell even the sun. Saying Monika can't be sensed is a blatant Proof by Example fallacy.
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no, not ALL soul manipulation works, it only worked on janemba, and only when it hit him, much like bodychange wouldent work here, this move has shown to work on peapole it hit, and not on peopole it cant. soul manipulation works most of the time, but if there is proof against it than it wont (like charas invincibilty frames just passing through soul attacks)Bluetrekking said:
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no problemAquaWaifu said:
