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I agree anyway. I hate DDLC and its impact on gaming.
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DDLC Concept Manip Removal
- Thread starter FriendOfTheTeaParty
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why ?, ddlc is good game tbh in my opinion.
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This is true.
Quite a bit of time after my last answer here I did form some thoughts on the matter due to also talking with friends off-site, which I'll express later as I'm in class rn.
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Ok I'm back.
Personally I've applied the Concept stuff back then when the standards for Concept and Information weren't that much apart and defined as they're now (Concept defines the "what" X thing is while Information defines the "how" X thing operates, so I can see why the thinf can cause confusion as the difference is really blurry).
I just didn't realize that given how close these are (while still being fundamentally different), there must be an explicit mention if you want both at the same time, as one pretty much does all the stuff the other does (hence why we have standard regarding Metaphysical Aspects and their "order", as Plot for example does the exact same stuff as these two).
So I can see the thing about Information being the basis of everything, with Plot being its subset.
Also, regarding NEP Nature 2, that can go too, I think I've mentioned here before I changed my mind on it quite a bit before, as the context seems to be more about Monika overwriting the universe with the new version rather than literally blowing it up then remaking it.
I'll apply the thing myself when I have time on my laptop later today.
Personally I've applied the Concept stuff back then when the standards for Concept and Information weren't that much apart and defined as they're now (Concept defines the "what" X thing is while Information defines the "how" X thing operates, so I can see why the thinf can cause confusion as the difference is really blurry).
I just didn't realize that given how close these are (while still being fundamentally different), there must be an explicit mention if you want both at the same time, as one pretty much does all the stuff the other does (hence why we have standard regarding Metaphysical Aspects and their "order", as Plot for example does the exact same stuff as these two).
So I can see the thing about Information being the basis of everything, with Plot being its subset.
Also, regarding NEP Nature 2, that can go too, I think I've mentioned here before I changed my mind on it quite a bit before, as the context seems to be more about Monika overwriting the universe with the new version rather than literally blowing it up then remaking it.
I'll apply the thing myself when I have time on my laptop later today.
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I think one more vote is needed because only @Dereck03 only agree and @Vietthai96 didn't vote and I am not should if @Phoenks votes counts here.
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ok didn't see but can make vote tally from next time so it easier to keep and eye on votes.
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I believe you need 3 staff votes to apply the changes as it's tackling a controversial ability.
ZillionZeutron
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Viet is a mod now.
EDIT: Nvm, I misread what Pluto said. Looks like Viet didn’t vote yet.
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well he didn't vote before and didn't mentioned anything about cm1 anyway.
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Tbf a thing that could be discussed still is the Script qualifying for Layered Information but it's not like I care that much. Would need to see myself again.
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Basically, it is very difficult for a purely information-based cosmologist, where everything in existence is defined by information with cosmology being a game, to achieve anything conceptual without a more direct mention of concepts, since both IM and CM have equal capabilities on the wiki.
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3 staff votes are for controversial verses like Dragon Ball
this is true, though IM is also equally hard to get if you do not have direct statement mention information or anything equivalent.
tbh i think the vote tally is already enough to applies due to the admin having x2 vote power compare to the thread mod.
Though anyway, after rereading the thread and evidence on DDLC profiles, i agree with CM removal
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Controversial abilities do also in a need for 3 staff votes for any verse. Concept, Plot, Info 2 and etc.
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Welp, applied it and removed the blog, as none seems to really have cared for, and I don't even disagree with it myself anymore.
This can be closed.
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Close the thread then
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