FTL Fairy Tail

[Arc7Kuroi]

So I was looking at some profiles and was thinking that perhaps Post-SBT Ac and 7 Flames Natsu should upscale to baseline FTL, let me explain.

Natsu towards the end of the manga's speed is rated as "Relativistic with DF (Comparable to his Igneel Powered Form and Base Zeref) or Dragonization (Faster than his Dragon Force), higher with DF+FDKM (Faster than before), far higher with SDFF (Kept up with Fairy Heart Form Zeref)".

Where the relativistic value is .4c. Wherein SDFF is two "highers" above it, so SDFF Natsu is a good deal faster than his relativistic value.

Post-SBT Ac has the following justification, "Relativistic+ (Faster than a Savage Dragon Fire Form Natsu who was enchanted to be 2x faster than normal)".

The scaling chain being: .4c << SDFF Natsu < SDFF Natsu with a 2x speed amp < Post-SBT Ac. What this ends up coming out to is: .8c <<<< Post-SBT Ac.

Thus, my proposal being Post-SBT Acnologia and 7 Flames Natsu upscale to baseline FTL, or maybe "At least Rel+, possibly FTL", since imo "<<<<" is enough to warrant consideration that Ac is slightly over 25% faster than double speed SDFF Natsu. Considering it would only upscale the untouchable gods of the verse, it's not like this creates issues either.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Watching

 

[KingTempest]

 

[DemonGodMitchAubin]

What the hell is up with all the Fairy Tail CRT’s?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

I see >>>> 80% the speed of light and I'm like "mmmm upgrade?"

 

[Damage3245]

"<<<<" is an arbitrary measuring stick.

What are the actual feats that would make this FTL?

 

[AnonymousBlank]

What the hell is up with all the Fairy Tail CRT’s?

And it’s only the god tiers as well. I want lower tiers to have CRTs, they matter too.

 

[Thelastmlg]

Idk about upscaling speed, I remember tier jumps needing a 15% gap to happen, but neve heard anything about speed

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

If anyone really knowledgeable in Fairy Tail can comment on if "blitzes" in Fairy Tail are quantifiable, because that could help a lot too.

Like if we see a character double their speed or sumn to blitz a character it would add consistency to the upscale, by actually quantifying a blitz.

 

[Teezar]

I agree with the OP.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

Why don’t we put this thing on hold? Cuz rn in 100YQ, they are fighting the Moon Dragon God who uses moonlight so if there is rel+ to FTL, we’ll be getting it soon (as in a few months). The FT spam needs to chill.

 

[Zezu1995]

yall need moonlight when u got gildarts and sting, plus light blades.. and ppl blitzing those reactions FT should've been FTL a long time ago

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

TBF I wasn't aware that there was an FT spam.

 

[AnonymousBlank]

yall need moonlight when u got gildarts and sting, plus light blades.. and ppl blitzing those reactions FT should've been FTL a long time ago

I mean …. rel but I was more so talking about a blatant feat that comes out FTL to validate the FTL via multipliers.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

validate the FTL via multipliers.

That's why I suggested a possibly.

 

[Cyberblader90]

ftl fairy tail

You are under arrest arc for crimes against humanity

 

[Zaratthustra]

You can have a scaling chain of 1000 characters but still won't be FTL, because just being a few m/s faster could be speedblitz in-verse. Without a feat/statement to back the FTL then no.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

because just being a few m/s faster could be speedblitz in-verse.

That's why I asked if anyone knowledgeable could quantify blitzes in-verse.

 

[Zezu1995]

bruh light magic in FT is natural that alone is what we can use,theres also kagura light blade reactions,natsu light beam, gildarts light beam dodge. also do anyone have any mulitpliers on dragon force etc? iirc i dont think we got any number

 

[Teezar]

TBF I wasn't aware that there was an FT spam.

Neither did i

I mean …. rel but I was more so talking about a blatant feat that comes out FTL to validate the FTL via multipliers.

I thought speed scaling with official multiplers is accepted on this wiki?

 

[Zezu1995]

wait i think i found one not sure if it can be used tho http://prntscr.com/1djz97q

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

DF is an accepted as a 2-4x multiplier iirc to all stats.

 

[Zackra1799]

That's why I asked if anyone knowledgeable could quantify blitzes in-verse.

IIRC The lowest possible method that's quantifiable I can think of is Wendy when boosting her speed with enchants doesn't blitz her opponents with a 2x speed buff, but I'm neither certain nor confident that this is accurate enough to base any scaling off of.

also do anyone have any mulitpliers on dragon force etc? iirc i dont think we got any number

Dragon Force has an accepted 4x multiplier to all stats from this CRT

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Well if we see characters who are relative to each other, and then it takes like a 2-4x speed amp before they can blitz, that would support the "possibly FTL" Post-SBT Ac for beasting on double speed SDFF Natsu. As there would be precedent in verse for blitzes requiring 2-4x speed amps. I am not saying give Ac a 2-4x speed multiplier over Natsu lol, just that quantifying a blitz supports my premise.

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Also, FT has like a sub-rel/sub-rel+ calc for the mid tiers iirc, which imo is fine as a supporting calc.

 

[ShadowGun45]

Natsu used the Dragon Force in his final blow ? the dragon force scales appear on his face

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Disagree with the CRT

Sting’s lasers aren’t confirmed light speed by this wiki, and gildarts feat is just an outlier as well.

being called light isn’t enough

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Huh? Arslan did you read the OP? When did I say a single thing about Sting or Gildarts? They aren't even part of my argument.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

Huh? Arslan did you read the OP? When did I say a single thing about Sting or Gildarts? They aren't even part of my argument.

No no I was talking to Zezu, not you.

I do disagree with the upscaling though as well

 

[StrawHatArslan]

You can have a scaling chain of 1000 characters but still won't be FTL, because just being a few m/s faster could be speedblitz in-verse. Without a feat/statement to back the FTL then no.

^ hence why I disagree with the CRT atm

 

[GuildZero]

i was expecting a feat for ftl fairy tail. but anyways im netural but leaning towards disagreeing since this seems like a jump to ftl because of the fact they are the two highest god tiers in the series. but i would be fine if they get the ftl rating if it is a possibly ftl.

also is selene magic considered light speed on the wiki

 

[StrawHatArslan]

i was expecting a feat for ftl fairy tail. but anyways im netural but leaning towards disagreeing since this seems like a jump to ftl because of the fact they are the two highest god tiers in the series. but i would be fine if they get the ftl rating if it is a possibly ftl.

also is selene magic considered light speed on the wiki

We should wait till any FTL feats in 100Yq if that’s the case

 

[GuildZero]

We should wait till any FTL feats in 100Yq if that’s the case

agreed

 

[Zezu1995]

its not being called light tho... its that light magic is NATURAL to its counter part

 

[ShadowGun45]

if Natsu used Dragon Force in his last move against Acnologia, wouldn't that put Natsu and Acnologia in FTL ?

 

[Arc7Kuroi]

Only the Post SBT Ac and 7 Flames Natsu would upscale

Additionally, it really looks like blitzes in FT are quantifiable around 2-4x speed increases. Which more than supports my claim in the OP.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

its not being called light tho... its that light magic is NATURAL to its counter part

Find a statement that shows it’s stated to be light speed. If it isn’t, then you can’t prove anything and go against it, because those are the wikis rules.

 

[StrawHatArslan]

if Natsu used Dragon Force in his last move against Acnologia, wouldn't that put Natsu and Acnologia in FTL ?

Not sure, I don’t think so but if he did then yeah it would

 

[ShadowGun45]

Not sure, I don’t think so but if he did then yeah it would

right after the natsu hits Acnologia shows dragon force scales on his face

Chapter 544

 

[StrawHatArslan]

right after the natsu hits Acnologia shows dragon force scales on his face

Chapter 544

I mean it could be a drawing error but tbh I have no idea, you should ask mitch