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freddy fazbear vs walter white

the car he has is 7 feet tall. im not sure he can just hook it over the car like that (at least effectively)
didn't even knew of the car height, it actually helps my point, ty.
if not over (he can just climb the car, throw the rock and just let himself fall behind the big car), he can use the sides (when he's almost getting behind the car, throw the rock and jump behind the car, or just moving sideways and do the same when already behind it)
 
didn't even knew of the car height, it actually helps my point, ty.
if not over (he can just climb the car, throw the rock and just let himself fall behind the big car), he can use the sides (when he's almost getting behind the car, throw the rock and jump behind the car, or just moving sideways and do the same when already behind it)
wouldn't climbing it take a bit of time? not to throw a wrench into Walter's climbing abilities but if he uses the bit of time he has to get out of his car, walk to the side of it, begin climbing it, then try to throw it

doesn't that give more than enough time for freddy to run over and grab the poor bastard? i don't recall walter being the most athletic guy (quite the opposite, really) so I'm not sure walter could climb his RV in that time.
 
wouldn't climbing it take a bit of time? not to throw a wrench into Walter's climbing abilities but if he uses the bit of time he has to get out of his car, walk to the side of it, begin climbing it, then try to throw it
shouldn't be too difficult if he steps up onto a tire first
doesn't that give more than enough time for freddy to run over and grab the poor bastard? i don't recall walter being the most athletic guy (quite the opposite, really) so I'm not sure walter could climb his RV in that time.
i am probably going to make crt on walt's speed, i'm pretty sure he should be athletic human through scaling to jimmy
 
cars dont immediately hit their peak speed on the bat
the rv is like 3x faster than freddy anyways, walt doesn't need to go top speed to tag him
giving freddy more than enough time to move out of the way
freddy's berserk mode means he'd charge straight at walt
and assuming walter doesn't just throw himself into a car crash just to hit the bear
what are you talking about
(which while the car crash wouldn't kill him, the bear that's crawling towards him would)
what are you talking about
 
the rv is like 3x faster than freddy anyways, walt doesn't need to go top speed to tag him
A car goes from stationary to its max. eventually. he's 3 times faster only after it eventually hits 80 miles per hour, and a car doesn't immediately go to 80 miles per hour. Freddy can very easily move in this scenario before it becomes 3 times after.
freddy's berserk mode means he'd charge straight at walt
No it doesn't. it means they'll stop at nothing to kill him. there's still a human consciousness in freddy, he knows what a car is. it's not mindless.
what are you talking about

what are you talking about
Freddy moving out of the way typically stops walter from hitting him. and unless he wants to sacrifice his car just to guarantee he'll hit Freddy, that'll get him killed.
 
wouldn't climbing it take a bit of time? not to throw a wrench into Walter's climbing abilities but if he uses the bit of time he has to get out of his car, walk to the side of it, begin climbing it, then try to throw it
i thought the start of the battle would have him out of the car, is he inside it? sheesh... but then he can wreck a window or just get it down, throw it at Freddy's hiding spot and go to other seat (like going to the backseat if he's in the driver one). Still, a possibility.
 
A car goes from stationary to its max. eventually. he's 3 times faster only after it eventually hits 80 miles per hour, and a car doesn't immediately go to 80 miles per hour. Freddy can very easily move in this scenario before it becomes 3 times after.
considering the speed the RV has to achieve is 3x below average human, i don't think it would mean 80mph...not even close to it, at all. according to speed's page, he would at max have to achieve ~33.3mph, mate.

No it doesn't. it means they'll stop at nothing to kill him. there's still a human consciousness in freddy, he knows what a car is. it's not mindless.
yes indeed, but it's a child one. a child consciousness with low speed. before this bear could process "dodge this car" and actually doing it, would have a lot of time.

Freddy moving out of the way typically stops walter from hitting him. and unless he wants to sacrifice his car just to guarantee he'll hit Freddy, that'll get him killed.
if he doesn't get hit even with the argument above, he still have to process "invade that car", "how? jumping." and actually jumping. Walter fails to hit him by any reason and he have time to make a turn, which would get freddy hit or at least alter the angle between freddy and walter inside the car, making him fail to hit him instantly.
 
considering the speed the RV has to achieve is 3x below average human, i don't think it would mean 80mph...not even close to it, at all. according to speed's page, he would at max have to achieve ~33.3mph, mate.
33 mph isn't even 2 faster than freddy, mate. that's .2x~ faster than him.
 
remember he has BAH speed, mate. i'm just getting the calc approved, but if you disagree, try making them again yourself...
Get it on the profile.

nor do I agree with them being that slow. but regardless, they're superhuman here so I'm unsure why you're trying to use something unapproved right now.
 
Get it on the profile.

nor do I agree with them being that slow. but regardless, they're superhuman here so I'm unsure why you're trying to use something unapproved right now.
unfortunatelly i can't ping admins nor bump my thread or my post for a while...but i'm using it since the calc makes sense, there's evidence, and if it gets approved after here's conclusion, we'll have to pass through part of this hell again : P
 
unfortunatelly i can't ping admins nor bump my thread or my post for a while...but i'm using it since the calc makes sense, there's evidence, and if it gets approved after here's conclusion, we'll have to pass through part of this hell again : P
you know, it'll make sense until anyone mentions the time any of the animatronics;

run down the hall (foxy- who's out of order and damaged when he does this)

Move across the entire building within a few seconds (Puppet- the animatronics have shown to move at the same speed as the puppet in minigames)

blitz trained nightguards [10-As] (basically everyone in the series)

so you're trying to tell me someone who's below average in speed does any of this? yeah no. a total of 3 anti-feats to a single below-average feat isn't gonna go anywhere.
 
and no. it's still unapproved which means I dont care if it 'makes sense' it's not approved nor on the profile. which means I can't use it without breaking the damn rules.

and even then I don't agree with the downgrade as said with the three spotlight anti-feats to this below-average speed attempt.

that's just a poor attempt at downgrading them right after they lost their 9-B rating. at least try and bring reasons why they should be at that speed instead of just saying 'it makes sense'
 
run down the hall (foxy- who's out of order and damaged when he does this)
prove to me he's damaged. How can a damaged and a wrecked (aka more damaged) versions get to the same conclusion?
Move across the entire building within a few seconds (Puppet- the animatronics have shown to move at the same speed as the puppet in minigames)
cool, not talking about him :>
blitz trained nightguards [10-As] (basically everyone in the series)
we know they die before they can react, but how the f*ck is he running right for your ass and all the sudden he's faster than what a video shows? worse: how he blitzes someone and then jumping, which uses his extreme force on his legs, he's slow af COMPROVED BY A CALC?
so you're trying to tell me someone who's below average in speed does any of this? yeah no. a total of 3 anti-feats to a single below-average feat isn't gonna go anywhere.
the first one you can't prove, the second one is offtopic and the third one is disproven by looking at how he works being comparable to the others.

edit: if a "broken one" and a "more broken one" is comparable by having the same speed, then every one of them are broken or <dramatic drums> none of them are <TADAAAAAAAAAAAAAM :)>
 
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that's just a poor attempt at downgrading them right after they lost their 9-B rating. at least try and bring reasons why they should be at that speed instead of just saying 'it makes sense'
look at the video, look at my calcs. if it doesn't make sense to you, then i really don't know how to talk to you
 
prove to me he's damaged. How can a damaged and a wrecked (aka more damaged) versions get to the same conclusion?
well the 'out of order' sign sure does give me an idea.
cool, not talking about him :>
don't care if you wanna downgrade everyone to below-average you need proof of it. which you have failed to do. so far you've said 'look at this' for your proof and ignored the fact they should really be either Superhuman from scaling to the Ennard feat or scaling to Peak human from blitzing a 10-A.
we know they die before they can react, but how the f*ck is he running right for your ass and all the sudden he's faster than what a video shows? worse: how he blitzes someone and then jumping, which uses his extreme force on his legs, he's slow af COMPROVED BY A CALC?
Well the calc doesn't mean much when the same character you got the feat from blitzes a 10-A right after this feat you pulled from them.
look at the video, look at my calcs. if it doesn't make sense to you, then i really don't know how to talk to you
your calc doesn't mean much when it's not accepted, nor will it matter when the other feats in the series are better and vary from Peak human to Superhuman.
 
run down the hall (foxy- who's out of order and damaged when he does this)
earlier you were arguing that the withered animatronics should be no slower than their fnaf 1 counterparts, and now you're arguing that foxy's speed is invalid because he's out of order and his fursuit is torn. awesome
Move across the entire building within a few seconds
if any of the other animatronics could do this, they would just kill you instantly
(Puppet- the animatronics have shown to move at the same speed as the puppet in minigames)
the visuals in fnaf's minigames aren't to be taken literally
  • a single animatronic head appears to be about half the size of the puppet, despite her actually being taller than any of the other fnaf 2 animatronics
  • all of the children are bald apparently
  • william teleports out of his car and then proceeds to kill charlie by standing in front of her for a few seconds
  • floating platforms just exist with zero explanation
  • freddy throws pizza directly into the mouths of children, who swallow the pizzas whole and then get erased from existence
  • the sun has a face
  • fredbear's family diner is the size of a small room
  • the children move faster than william afton's car
  • circus baby jumps around in an open field and throws cupcakes at children
  • in most minigames, the children are nearly as tall as the animatronics. in savethem, the animatronic heads alone are nearly as big as their entire bodies
blitz trained nightguards [10-As] (basically everyone in the series)
i love how you go strictly by the profiles until it no longer suits you. michael's profile says he's 10-B. also, they don't blitz adults, they literally just jump at them and kill them. the player is cornered in a small office, so it's not like they can do much anyways. imagine if i jumped a guy who was already in a corner, beat him up, and then said that i blitzed him. except unlike me, freddy is a 600 pound animatronic, and only really needs one good hit to kill a guy before he can react. it's hardly a speed feat.
 
don't care if you wanna downgrade everyone to below-average you need proof of it. which you have failed to do. so far you've said 'look at this' for your proof and ignored the fact they should really be either Superhuman from scaling to the Ennard feat or scaling to Peak human from blitzing a 10-A.
blitz is what you suppose happens when you die, and i calced what ACTUALLY happens in the games to say that it isn't like that. Also, i don't mean for a verse downgrade. my intent is limited for FNAF 1 and the withered FNAF 2 guys, if it affects other animatronics, cool, if not, cool too.
Well the calc doesn't mean much when the same character you got the feat from blitzes a 10-A right after this feat you pulled from them.
no..? have you ever looked at how you die in fnaf 1? have you seen that i made a fnaf 2 calc based on the jump you call blitz?
Remember that in 1 they don't kill you when you're staring them, they kill you while you're distracted and cannot react.
your calc doesn't mean much when it's not accepted, nor will it matter when the other feats in the series are better and vary from Peak human to Superhuman.
what even is a "better" feat? a feat you find being cooler?
 
what even is a "better" feat? a feat you find being cooler?
he already brought up his preferred feats, animatronics apparently blitzing the nightguard and the puppet moving across the entire restaurant. neither of these are applicable to freddy though
 
he already brought up his preferred feats, animatronics apparently blitzing the nightguard and the puppet moving across the entire restaurant. neither of these are applicable to freddy though
puppet scales to himself, we're not even talking about him lol
worse: considering that the animatronics are blitzing the guard is a huge bullshit
 
and below human average is better despite they couldn't possibly go up and just kill a 10-A, let alone a 10-B? yeah not sure you can justify them going that low without trying to figure out a way how they could plausibly kill people.

there's also the fact that since springtrap in AR is the original springtrap, that makes the problem of how you justify one animatronic that's older and more broken down than freddy (or basically anyone in the series besides bonnie) is for whatever reason blitzing in superior speed than every other one in the series.

if you really want to try and downgrade them that low, you gotta fill in all these problems you make having newer, not broken models at below human average but a broken springbonnie suit with a corpse being able to blitz the entire series.

Do not mention 'you' jumping someone because you aren't blitzing speed slower than someone. making you're entire argument invalid when mentioning something that would require you to be at least as fast as another person.
you can stare at them with the door open and nothing happens, but then you distract yourself by looking at the camera and get killed by surprise
...=blitz?
like wtf lol
We'll just ignore ennard can do that same thing without you needing to distract yourself?
no..? have you ever looked at how you die in fnaf 1? have you seen that i made a fnaf 2 calc based on the jump you call blitz?
Remember that in 1 they don't kill you when you're staring them, they kill you while you're distracted and cannot react.
fnaf 1 foxy kills you regardless if you're distracted or not.
*1.2x faster. still faster than farbr
you believe 1.2x speed is actually a big enough for freddy to not react?
the visuals in fnaf's minigames aren't to be taken literally
  • a single animatronic head appears to be about half the size of the puppet, despite her actually being taller than any of the other fnaf 2 animatronics
  • all of the children are bald apparently
  • william teleports out of his car and then proceeds to kill charlie by standing in front of her for a few seconds
  • floating platforms just exist with zero explanation
  • freddy throws pizza directly into the mouths of children, who swallow the pizzas whole and then get erased from existence
  • the sun has a face
  • fredbear's family diner is the size of a small room
  • the children move faster than william afton's car
  • circus baby jumps around in an open field and throws cupcakes at children
  • in most minigames, the children are nearly as tall as the animatronics. in savethem, the animatronic heads alone are nearly as big as their entire bodies
half of these are either blatantly wrong or not understanding that the minigames are either arcade games or simplifications of something.

for example, the puppet is not that tall. she can be kidnapped and fit inside an animatronic the size of Freddy (Lefty) without issue. and half the mini-games you mentioned don't even have feats in them! why are you mentioning random minigames that dont have feats in them instead of mentioning minigames that are flawed WITH feats in them?
 
since we're talking about fnaf 1 guys and the withered versions of them...yes.
fnaf 1 foxy kills you regardless if you're distracted or not.
because his mechanic is different and you're able to know on a different way that he's coming. the guy is completely different from the rest of the animatronics and whoever said they're comparable therefore the same speed level, is the responsable for all the 4 having the tier lowered
you believe 1.2x speed is actually a big enough for freddy to not react?
a car 1.2x faster than a kid may cause her some damage, yeah. also, why isn't it > 2x faster when freddy is BAH speed?
 
since we're talking about fnaf 1 guys and the withered versions of them...yes.

because his mechanic is different and you're able to know on a different way that he's coming. the guy is completely different from the rest of the animatronics and whoever said they're comparable therefore the same speed level, is the responsable for all the 4 having the tier lowered

a car 1.2x faster than a kid may cause her some damage, yeah. also, why isn't it > 2x faster when freddy is BAH speed?
Because freddy is actually Superhuman in his profile currently
 
Because freddy is actually Superhuman in his profile currently
as i've said: my calcs make sense and haven't being disproven.
if you want to have the headache of going through most of this topic again after the profiles are fixed, go on. i'm just avoiding that every single person here loses time.
 
Not disapproved, but not yet approved

And even if it is approved, it still has the springtrap feat
 
Springtrap is an old and decaying version of bonnie and springtrap is in animatronic mode
he was put on a version of bonnie that doesn't appear in his profile...according to springtrap's profile.
 
and below human average is better despite they couldn't possibly go up and just kill a 10-A
fnaf nightguards aren’t 10-A why do you keep saying that they are
yeah not sure you can justify them going that low without trying to figure out a way how they could plausibly kill people.
i think the idea is that the animatronics are 9-C with below average human speed. they kill the guards through sheer brute force. imo i doubt they’re that slow but the calcs seem to say otherwise
there's also the fact that since springtrap in AR is the original springtrap, that makes the problem of how you justify one animatronic that's older and more broken down than freddy (or basically anyone in the series besides bonnie) is for whatever reason blitzing in superior speed than every other one in the series.
william should be faster than the animatronics, and for some reason springtrap doesn’t seem to be any slower
Do not mention 'you' jumping someone because you aren't blitzing speed slower than someone. making you're entire argument invalid when mentioning something that would require you to be at least as fast as another person.
if i was seven times stronger than someone and had them cornered in an office i could probably kill them without being faster
funtime animatronics and classic animatronics are made by different creators with completely different blueprints and thus shouldn’t be scaled to each other
fnaf 1 foxy kills you regardless if you're distracted or not.
yeah because he’s 7 times stronger than you and has you cornered
you believe 1.2x speed is actually a big enough for freddy to not react
yes. the rv is moving faster than freddy is. therefore it can tag freddy. i don’t see how this is difficult to understand
half of these are either blatantly wrong
“you are wrong” is not a very solid argument
or not understanding that the minigames are either arcade games or simplifications of something.
not really. i know that they’re heavily simplified. in fact, that is what i am trying to prove here. the visuals in the minigames are inconsistent, low-quality, and often metaphorical, so they shouldn’t be taken literally.
for example, the puppet is not that tall. she can be kidnapped and fit inside an animatronic the size of Freddy (Lefty) without issue.
she’s 6’9”
and half the mini-games you mentioned don't even have feats in them!
cool! what about the other half
why are you mentioning random minigames that dont have feats in them instead of mentioning minigames that are flawed WITH feats in them?
the animatronics jumping several meters into the air in platformers is probably a feat, despite making literally no sense
And even if it is approved, it still has the springtrap feat
of him running past a window? any human could do that. besides, springtrap is william afton, who is faster than the animatronics.
 
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So, walter's icon is to run over freddy with the car, several times.
Freddy's is to take Walter and dismantle him
And the bomb kills them both, but freddy stays in his ghost form
 
So, walter's icon is to run over freddy with the car, several times.
Freddy's is to take Walter and dismantle him
And the bomb kills them both, but freddy stays in his ghost form
depends on how many bombs affect freddy. If he has nothing to possess then he can't harm Walter, so counts as a perma-incap
also, not in every situation the crystals kill both of them. i've pointed time after time about how Walter could safely explode freddys body
 
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